Freedom Exemplified

I don’t get the idea that suicide only affects the one committing or attempting it that some seem to be putting forth here. I had a bizarre experience close to 10 years ago.

At the time I had intermittent FMLA for severe migraine pain. I got up with the severe neck/shoulder pain on one side that precedes migraine & thought if by 2 AM (night shift worker) I’m not better, I’m leaving on FMLA.

The longer I sat upright, the better I felt. Anyway, come 2 AM I get a text message saying our upstairs neighbor attempted suicide by both poisoning & cutting with shattered glass.

There was a lot of noise & flashing lights from police & EMTs (both worsen migraine pain). Had I returned home, I’d have approached & asked an officer could I have a ride to the E R, too.

A negotiator had to do his best to get this woman to remove herself from a locked room; the owner had big repairs to the property; & we were sweeping shattered glass out of our apartment for months afterwards.

Sadly, the lady has since passed from a late diagnosis thats pain may or may not have been a catalyst for her despondency. Her survivors were affected by her attempt at suicide as well as her neighbors. It really isn’t an act that’s about strictly the one committing it.

Sounds like we can get rid of a lot of laws. DUI is fine as long as nobody gets hurt, right?

.08 apparently. 1 shot of Tequila an hour.

Oh you betcha.

Still misappropriating the term prior restraint I see.

And of course not. But that is also irrelevant. Much like firing a round into a crowd, but not hurting anybody, drunk driving should also be okay. According to the logic if this thread, anyway.

How so?

According to you it is ok, 0.08. 1 shot of Tequila an hour.

Stop. LEO will always try to stop a jumper regardless of the law. I am a toll collector and I worked in the shadow of the Goethals bridge into NY for many years. Law enforcement will always try to talk someone from committing suicide. Doesn’t matter the situation. They’ll shut everything down and back that up for 6 hours to my extreme delight.

I think saying “according to you this or that is ok” is incorrect.

“Ok” is a value judgment.

When does it become res publica? Society’s business? When do you get to make my business yours?

Interesting. Do they have the “right” to inconvenience me and interrupt my right to freely travel the public thoroughfare?

Why not?

You asked what the limit is, and in most states it’s 0.08. Besides, that’s irrelevant. As long as I don’t have ill intent, and nobody gets hurt, it should be okay, right?

How is it irrelevant? And if you are under the limit and somebody gets hurt?

Yeah, should be ok. Nobody got hurt.

You seem to be getting off track here. .08 is what most states call too drunk to drive.

Which is wrong, because it limits your freedom to drive while drinking, so long as you don’t have I’ll intent and nobody gets hurt.

Yes, yes, and no. Ergo, driving drunk is okay, so long as nobody gets hurt. AND, you must not have bad intent.

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Maybe this meme is better fitting here.

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Is this where we all pretend that late term abortions are done for convenience and not because of personal tragedy?

Is this where we all do that for CHECKMATE LIBS!!!

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What is “Attempted murder” anyway?

Why would they infringe on everyone’s freedom?

The ultimate freedom to jump and the freedom to travel freely.

I say that the police shouldn’t do anything because FREEDOM!!!

Wow. When I said it I was kidding.

Here come the extreme examples :rofl:

Called it