Freedom Exemplified

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

I love this game of CHECKMATE LIBS!!!

That’s pretty weak.

Becuase the point being made was super stupid.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

I should have said “Michael Vick-types”.

Do you know why people are charging “rehoming fees” for adoptions?

Why should they take dogs away from them in the first place?

It’s their property.

We have established that they can be dropped from a roof and that is other people’s problems.

Your absurdity is correct, he should have to fight beside them.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

I love this game of CHECKMATE LIBS!!!

That’s pretty weak.

Becuase the point being made was super stupid.

Is it? The imposition of values/morality from a position of authority?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Jezcoe

I think that this is one of the great divides.

Does one have the FREEDOM to do whatever they want even if the action has a distinct possibility of harming someone else?

I will posit this again.

If I shoot a single bullet towards a crowd of people and fail to hit someone, am I exercising my FREEDOM or am I being a thug?

That is interesting.

You should further posit the round is shot without malice or target. The shot is simply taken “just because I can”.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

No. But you know it could have.

Sure, it is counterfactual in this discourse. You want to judge her based on things that didn’t happen or rationalize prior restraint. I’m not interested in what you want to argue.

@Jezcoe

How does intent matter when FREEDOM ends in an innocent being harmed or killed?

Good question. How?

@Jezcoe

I think that this is one of the great divides.

Does one have the FREEDOM to do whatever they want even if the action has a distinct possibility of harming someone else?

I agree wholeheartedly. In fact I would offer it is the great divide.

@Jezcoe

I will posit this again.

If I shoot a single bullet towards a crowd of people and fail to hit someone, am I exercising my FREEDOM or am I being a thug?

Did she hurl herself and her dog towards a crowd of people? If so, how did she miss?

I’m having a hard time with your mythology, I don’t shoot towards anything and I don’t miss.

when FREEDOM ends in an innocent being harmed or killed?

And here we are back at abortion et al.

This is the sort of circular nonsense that one comes to expect when someone just cannot come to terms with the fact that their initial hot take on an event was dumb.

But what I have learned.

I can take actions without regard to other human’s life and as long as no one gets hurt it is FREEDOM.

It is a brave new world we are in.

[Jezcoe]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Jezcoe

I think that this is one of the great divides.

Does one have the FREEDOM to do whatever they want even if the action has a distinct possibility of harming someone else?

I will posit this again.

If I shoot a single bullet towards a crowd of people and fail to hit someone, am I exercising my FREEDOM or am I being a thug?

That is interesting.

You should further posit the round is shot without malice or target. The shot is simply taken “just because I can”.

That is exactly it.

I am exercising my Freedom.

As long as no one gets hurt I should be good.

[Oryx]

@WuWei

Of course. Who decides and how do we judge?

If the lady’s husband chose to commit suicide the next day or died of a broken heart, what would we say?

I support people making personal decisions to end their own lives for whatever reasons they choose. I don’t support jumping off roofs in crowded cities and splattering healthy dogs on sidewalks. I think I’ve made that clear several times now.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

This is the sort of circular nonsense that one comes to expect when someone just cannot come to terms with the fact that their initial hot take on an event was dumb.

It’s your circle.

@Jezcoe

But what I have learned.

I can take actions without regard to other human’s life and as long as no one gets hurt it is FREEDOM.

By George… I think you’ve got it!

@Jezcoe

It is a brave new world we are in.

It’s probably not for you.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

Your absurdity is correct, he should have to fight beside them.

Why.

It is his property.

And we already established that it is okay to do so.

You said “sure” and everything.

[WuWei]

@Oryx

@WuWei

Of course. Who decides and how do we judge?

If the lady’s husband chose to commit suicide the next day or died of a broken heart, what would we say?

I support people making personal decisions to end their own lives for whatever reasons they choose. I don’t support jumping off roofs in crowded cities and splattering healthy dogs on sidewalks. I think I’ve made that clear several times now.

You want to approve of how they do it. Got it.

How do you know the dog was healthy?

[conan]

Do it…you have to live with it.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

Your absurdity is correct, he should have to fight beside them.

Why.

It is his property.

And we already established that it is okay to do so.

You said “sure” and everything.

Sharing in the consequences. Moral authority to lead. Unlike Wheeler, Lightfoot and abortion.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

By George… I think you’ve got it!

But if the exact same action brings harm which we all know it can.

Does the FREEDOM. Become thuggery?

[Oryx]

@WuWei

You want to approve of how they do it. Got it.

Yes, of course. Jumping off a roof is dangerous to pedestrians and others as I proved with several links. Just like driving into oncoming traffic, which I asked you about twice yesterday and you twice ignored. If you want to kill yourself, fine. Just don’t do it in a way that kills innocent bystanders.

@WuWei

How do you know the dog was healthy?

I don’t support splattering any dogs on sidewalks, healthy or otherwise.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

By George… I think you’ve got it!

But if the exact same action brings harm which we all know it can.

Does the FREEDOM. Become thuggery?

Ah, if it does, now you have a crime. A basis for judgment. Punishment.

Yes, then it becomes something else. Thuggery requires culture.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

By George… I think you’ve got it!

But if the exact same action brings harm which we all know it can.

Does the FREEDOM. Become thuggery?

Ah, if it does, now you have a crime. A basis for judgment. Punishment.

Yes, then it becomes something else. Thuggery requires culture.

So it is culture that gives it the transitive property.

I would still like to know.

I fire a single bullet towards a crowd of people and I miss.

Am I good?

[WuWei]

@Oryx

Yes, of course. Jumping off a roof is dangerous to pedestrians and others as I proved with several links. Just like driving into oncoming traffic, which I asked you about twice yesterday and you twice ignored. If you want to kill yourself, fine. Just don’t do it in a way that kills innocent bystanders.

You want to involve yourself in their business. Got it. Did she harm anyone else?

@Oryx

I don’t support splattering any dogs on sidewalks, healthy or otherwise.

Then don’t do it. Why do you matter in her case?

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

So it is culture that gives it the transitive property.

No, harm.

@Jezcoe

I would still like to know.

I fire a single bullet towards a crowd of people and I miss.

Am I good?

No, you’re not good. You missed.

If the baby survives the abortion and I let it live, am I good?

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

No, you’re not good. You missed.

Really.

No consequences?

Nothing?

That is a thing that can happen.

That is pretty wild.

I like this FREEDOM.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

No, you’re not good. You missed.

Really.

No consequences?

Nothing?

That is a thing that can happen.

That is pretty wild.

I like this FREEDOM.

Sure, who was harmed?