Free will doesn’t exist

Well, since neuroscience has determined that I cannot do the Ethiopian Shim Sham even with sand…

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[quote=“moonshine, post:34, topic:238723, full:true”]

The uncertainty principle has no use in the overwhelming majority practical or applied science.

Like pretty much every other conversation on this message board, it all boils down to how you define your terms.

What is “free will”?

Is the premise that our conscious experience of being is the output of our unconscious analytical brain mutually exclusive with the concept of free will?

I don’t necessarily think so.

You don’t think science should play any role in public policy?

First a video outlining the two schools of thought.

Second, showing why the Copenhagen interpretation is false. Leaving only the deterministic universe standing.

https://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/copenhageninterp4.htm

The tenet of the Copenhagen Interpretation that charged particles have no material existence until they are subjected to measurement has no justification. It is based upon the false notion that if a particle has a probability distribution then it does not have a material existence. Any particle in motion has a time-spent probability distribution based upon the proportion of the time it spends in its various allowable locations and velocity intervals. The probability density distribution of a physical system asymptotically approaches the time-spent probability distribution of the system as its energy increases without bound.

Likewise the Uncertainty Principle does not imply the immateriality of particles. Time-spent probability distributions for material particles can satisfy the Uncertainty Principle perfectly well.

Thus the Copenhagen Interpretation notion of the immateriality of massive, charged particles was never justified. until they are subjected to measurement has no justification. It is based upon the false notion that if a particle has a probability distribution then it does not have a material existence. Any particle in motion has a time-spent probability distribution based upon the proportion of the time it spends in its various allowable locations and velocity intervals. The probability density distribution of a physical system asymptotically approaches the time-spent probability distribution of the system as its energy increases without bound.

Likewise the Uncertainty Principle does not imply the immateriality of particles. Time-spent probability distributions for material particles can satisfy the Uncertainty Principle perfectly well.

Thus the Copenhagen Interpretation notion of the immateriality of massive, charged particles was never justified.