For the first time in American history part of the military will work without pay

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The U.S Military count the Coast Guard as an offical branch, but guess they are not so who cares if they get paid or not.

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No, the Army and Air Force and by extension the Navy. They can’t unless otherwise authorized by Congress. Which they did for the Coast Guard with Title 14 United States Code § 2.

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They were transferred to the Department of the Navy during WW1 and WW2. Before being placed under the Department of Homeland Security, they were part of the Department of the Treasury.

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I don’t think that anyone really believes that we need the Coast Guard. It is better for the United States not to defend its borders, but to build a wall around the United States. We can be safe and save a lot of money. Don’t you think Donald Trump thought about that? Coast Guard - fake protection.

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Posse Comitatus applies to the Army, Air Force and Navy (and the Marines since they fall under the Navy) not the Coast Guard - which is still a military service.

If you doubt the Coast Guard is a military service, I would refer you to Title 14 United States Code § 1 which says “The Coast Guard, established January 28, 1915, shall be a military service and a branch of the armed forces of the United States at all times.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/14/1
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It is a military service, just not under DOD during peace time. It can be transfered to DOD and fall under the Navy when so directed by an act of Congress during war.
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As a 20 year retired Army vet, I’ll gladly stand next to someone who’s put his/her ass on the line in the service to this country, be it Coast Guard, FBI, police, Border Patrol, etc vs so-called “patriots” who have never served this nation.

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This is the nit you’re going to pick.

Amazing.

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Republicans like and support cheating military and coast guard out of pay and making them suffer in financial straits, while Trump gets rich off taxpayers, including those very same Republican Trump supporters.

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This would never have flown in 2003. Lol.

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Unbelievable.

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So are they a part of the Navy (navy falls under posse comitatus)? or are they not and only if called up by congress?

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Give it up, man. You have been shown multiple citations that show that they are a branch of the US Armed Forces, and were given special right to enforce law that other branches werent.

Let it go…its not the hill you should want to die on.

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If they are under the Departmetn of Navy, are they breaking the law by enforcing domestic law then?

And do you have proof that they were given an exemption to the previous law?

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No, they aren’t.

In post 21 World Watcher did you the favor of providing the law that gave them that exemption.

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Coast Guard are exempt by law.

Read World Watcher post he link the legal text.

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in plan English the Coast Guard have authority (Granted by Congress) to act both as a federal law enforcement agency and armed service.

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The Coast Guard shall be a service in the Department of Homeland Security, except when operating as a service in the Navy.

(b)Transfers.—

Upon the declaration of war if Congress so directs in the declaration or when the President directs, the Coast Guard shall operate as a service in the Navy, and shall so continue until the President, by Executive order, transfers the Coast Guard back to the Department of Homeland Security. While operating as a service in the Navy, the Coast Guard shall be subject to the orders of the Secretary of the Navy, who may order changes in Coast Guard operations to render them uniform, to the extent such Secretary deems advisable, with Navy operations.

Appears to me that they are ONLY part of the milliary (navey) upon declaration of war and receiving that desingation in the declaration OR when a directive is issued by the president that they operate as a service in the Navey.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/14/3

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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/14/1

The Coast Guard, established January 28, 1915, shall be a military service and a branch of the armed forces of the United States at all times.

They are at all time legally part of the armed services which means they are classed as uniformed military personal if captured.

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And then transfered to the deaprtment of homeland security (non millitary). Unless and until they are re-designated to the military by declaration of war or by order of the president.

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Yes so they can act as a Federal Agency but at all times they are an offical branch of the military by law.