Finally, an admission of groping a drunk girl

Don’t be naive. You know what we ar talking about here.

I don’t know what you’re talking about.

You appear to be implying that women who are sexually assaulted bear some culpability for it by getting drunk.

I’m asking you to elaborate and giving you the benefit of the doubt.

I’m saying nothing of the sort. Follow the thread. There is plenty of detail.

Then by all means, elaborate on what you actually meant. I’m all ears.

What have any women discussed in this thread done that needs to be “excused”?

Did you voted for Hillary Clinton?

No, I did not voted for Hillary Clinton.

I didn’t vote for her, either.

Well just to recap Hillary Clinton accuse that 12 year old Kathy Shelton of wanting it…saying she was infatuated with older men.

As in she was asking for it.

Forum libs voted for that person.

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Yes, 43 years ago Hillary Clinton did her job as a public defender.

What does that have to do with the discussion at hand, other than as a generic “…but Hillary”?

Is it possible for them to send mixed signals?

Define sexual assault.

By dragging that young girl through hell. Basically accusing her for the rape.

Of course. But most of the time, those mixed signals come from the man not reading the situation correctly, rather than the woman purposefully trying to confuse the man.

Now that’s a complicated question.

Legally, every state defines it differnetly. For the sake of my point, let’s call it “nonconsentual sexual contact”.

Well that’s not true at all.

The legal system is often not pretty.

But a basic tenant of our system is that everyone gets representation.

It is possible for them to send mixed signals. If they are mixed. Get up and walk away and pull up your pants while you are at it

When does it become “non-consensual”?

Define “sexual contact”.

His pants weren’t down and neither were hers.

And that’s ridiculous. How am I supposed to know they’re mixed?

Well that’s good. If they are at his hips are they pulled down? He should pull them up anyway, lest he be judged.

If a girl is purposefully giving you mixed signals, she’s probably flirting with you.

If a girl is unintentionally giving you mixed signals, its often because shes trying to be nice, while simultaneously making it clear she’s not interested.

There’s no doubt it’s very complicated. But it’s the man’s responsibility to navigate those waters.

I don’t know you so I haven’t idea what you feel is yes, a no, or either