Fifth Column eco activists lose in S.C. __ Trump can build wall


sorry I forgot link.



Total control of the government. Except for the FBI, Mueller, and any of the conglomerate of alphabet soup agencies and Congressional busy body committees that are actively working against him, or does he have complete control of those too? :laughing:


Total and complete control. The Director of the FBI is a Trump appointee. The person overseeing Mueller is a Trump appointee. The Senate and the House are run by Republicans, which Trump is the leader of the party. All of the “alphabet soup” groups under the Executive Branch’s authority is run by, you guessed it, the head of the Executive Branch who happens to be Donald Trump. Total and complete control.


Total and complete control. You bet. He’s really in charge of indicting his own people. :roll_eyes:


Ignore reality if it makes you too uncomfortable to acknowledge it. You do you I guess.

And yes, he is over the DOJ, and the DOJ are indicting “his own people” because they broke the law. Something you clearly don’t care about any more. Weird.


And political witch hunts used to bother you. This is where you go back to claiming to be consistent though, amirite? :roll_eyes:


Witch hunt? How very Trumpian of you.

I’ve never been opposed to investigating politicians. They’re our employees and the more transparency there is, the better for all of us. And I believe everyone should be held accountable for their actions and no one…NO ONE…is above the law.

Yes, that is consistency.


Great. Then let’s declassify all the details of the investigation and release them to the public. Transparency is good, right?


At the conclusion of the investigation, absolutely! But not a second before.


The thing a about a great con (and make no mistake, being a con man seems to be Trump’s only real skill), is that the marks never, ever realize that they were conned. Witness:



Now all Fat Donald needs to do is collect enough pesos from Mexico to pay for building his “big beautiful wall” on our Southern border to keep out the invading hordes of evil brown skinned people’s.


Just so we’re clear, posts with only rolly eyes by themselves are troll posts that need to be flagged and removed, right?

Just wanted to bring it to your attention so it could be handled appropriately.


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If you have nothing of substance or value to offer regarding the subject of the thread, please have the decency to not post in it.



Follow your own advice :roll_eyes:


And the answer is:repubs didn’t do it.


Because the Fifth Column Democrat Leadership blocks such bills in the House.



American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.


They do indeed.


The Wall is a fundamentally stupid idea ( – it won’t work long term, and doesn’t stop major paths such as overstayed visas). It’s also a terrible idea for the environments it would cross. Are these reasons why Trump supporters like the idea so much?


Baloney! Walls do work! Not only does a wall work for Israel, but it also has proven to cut illegal entrant crossings in Yuma, Ariz., and San Diego. Walls do work, and have done so for centuries.

Yes, Captain Obvious, walls do not prevent overstayed visas, which is an entirely different problem. So why bring it up with regard to the benefits of a wall?

And with regard to a wall being “… a terrible idea for the environments it would cross…”, the devastating social and economic consequences of not ending illegal immigration are far, far greater than the perceived threat to the Arroyo toad from building a wall.

So, let us take a look at the destructive social and economic consequences in just one county in California inflicted upon its citizens in 1995 when this massive invasion of our borders began to accelerate. CLICK HERE and scroll to page 93 for testimony given by JOAN ZINSER before the COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DECEMBER 13, 1995

Good morning Chairman Smith and other honorable members of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims. I am Joan Zinser, Deputy Director of the San Diego County Department of Social Services. I direct the department’s Income Maintenance Bureau, which has responsibility for AFDC, Food Stamps and Medicaid eligibility determinations. I am here today to tell you about the effects of illegal immigration on the County’s assistance programs, and to present information regarding impacts on other county-funded services.

Impacts on San Diego County

In 1993, illegal aliens in San Diego County were estimated to be 7.9% of the population, or a total of almost 220,000 illegal aliens in a county with a population of slightly over 2 1/2 million. A 1993 Calffornia State Senate report estimated that the State, local governments - primarily the County - and schools incurred $304 million in costs to provide services to illegal aliens. These costs were offset by only $60 million in taxes generated by illegal aliens - leaving a net impact of $244 million.

Welfare Costs.

When a child is a US citizen, AFDC can be granted for the child but not the parent, if the parent is an undocumented immigrant. In 1992 there were 6,414 children born to undocumented immigrant parents in San Diego County hospitals. Each year, the illegal alien parents of nearly 2000 "citizen children" apply for and receive AFDC in San Diego County. The cumulative total of these "citizen child" cases continues to rise each year.

Public assistance is intended to support the citizen child, but is paid to the illegal alien parent and is, no doubt, used by the parent to support the entire family. Costs for providing AFDC to "citizen children" cases in San Diego totaled $37 million in 1993 for approximately 5430 AFDC cases.

Additional costs are incurred in Child Welfare Services. Combining costs for Out-of-Home and Family Maintenance services to families of illegal aliens results in an additional cost of $1.7 million.

Medicaid and Other Health-Related- Costs.

Medicaid services are an increasingly large portion of the costs involved in illegal immigration. In 1992, Medicaid paid for 6,414 births illegal alien mothers. Although studies have shown that illegal aliens use fewer Medicaid services than do the age-equivalent members of the general population, significant costs remain. Delivery costs are greater for babies with mothers lacking adequate prenatal care and many medical conditions are treated more cost-effectively in their early stages. Infectious diseases are also a major concern of the County. San Diego County has historically carried large costs because of illegal aliens with these problems. Costs associated with providing emergency and pregnancy related needs to illegal aliens are paid for under "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." During the 1992 calendar year, an estimated $37 million was paid for "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." Other costs, including uncompensated care in hospitals, community clinics, and other health services elevated the 1993 total costs to over $50 million.

Criminal justice.

A recent 90-day pilot project involved having INS Agents present in the county jails to interview those suspected of being an undocumented immigrant. Approximately 20% of the persons booked into the jails during that pilot were identified as being illegal aliens. With annual bookings of approximatel 105,000 persons a year, it is estimated that up to 21,000 were illegal aliens.

According to the San Diego County District Attorney, 8,521 felony crimes were committed by illegal aliens between 1987 and 1992. Illegal aliens commit an estimated 22% of felony crimes committed in the county. The number of misdemeanors committed during the same period in San Diego County by illegal aliens is estimated to be 17,000. In 1993, approximately 15. 1 % of the costs -accrued in dealing with crimes were spent on illegal aliens. Costs for illegal aliens to the legal system totaled $151 million in the County of San Diego for 1993.


Recently, a video of students crossing the border and getting on a school bus in San Diego County in order to receive free education was shown nationwide. Locally, we have worked to make sure that this situation does not recur, but education of the children of illegal aliens is also a significant CDSt. It is estimated that $60 million was spent in San Diego County in 1993 for education of illegal aliens.

And, more recently see:

Illegal aliens cost California billions


”Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California — which has the highest number of illegal aliens nationwide — $10.5 billion a year for education, health care and incarceration, according to a study released yesterday.”

Also see:

Testimony about "51 Florida Hospitals in trouble" due to illegal aliens expenses:

Jun 10, 2008

The above are the kind of facts our globalists want you to ignore, and expect you to continue to bear the burden of. Is there any wonder why so many hospitals in border states and elsewhere have shut down or closed their ER units!!!”?

Also take a look at Texas Faces Rising Cost For Illegal Immigrant Care

Aug 19, 2010

Texas spent at least $250 million in the past year for medical care and imprisonment of illegal immigrants and other non-citizens.

And how about this: The Fiscal Cost of Unlawful Immigrants and Amnesty to the U.S. Taxpayer

May 6, 2013

”In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers. Amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar.”

And how about the tens of thousands of criminal aliens released into our nation’s population? See: Judicial Watch: 165,900 Criminal Aliens into US Population Through April 2014

Mar 2015

”Nearly 166,000 convicted criminal illegal aliens were released by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as of April, 2014. This is the analysis of 76 pages of DHS documents obtained by Judicial Watch via Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. The criminal illegal aliens include rapists, murderers and kidnappers.”


American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.