Federal Judge rules ACA unconstitutional


#62

You really want folks in government dictating your choices and decisions regarding your health care needs? Or is it you want free government cheese?

JWK

If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon the federal government for its subsistence, we can then bribe them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ____ The Democrat Leadership’s Socialist Fifth Column long term strategy


#63

Actually, because of our free market system, it is now down to less than $350 per eye!

Imagine what a college education would cost these days if our federal government never got involved in financing college!

JWK

John Adams was absolutely correct when he pointed out that "democracy will envy all, contend with all, endeavor to pull down all; and when by chance it happens to get the upper hand for a short time, it will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel…". Witness today the suicidal path our democrat socialists have chosen to take, supported by a Fifth Colum media and Yellow Journalists.


#64

Our population is so large, the left could put together their own single payer. It’s not like you guys lack rich people to tax…

Of course reps have nothing to replace it, as they never seems to have long term plans to keep our liberty… Dems always have legislation ready to remove your liberty ready to go…


#65

They should pass a law allowing the worker to direct all the health insurance money an employer pays for coverage… and allow bare bones coverage for long term disease only…


#66

I wonder how John Roberts will save it this time?..lol!


#67

One word: severability


#68

Now wait a second, our super wealthy democrat socialists, especially those in Hollywood, would never dream of using government provided healthcare. Why should they be taxed to finance it?

JWK

Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people’s money.Margaret Thatcher


#69

Probably by lying again. I wonder what his children will think of him when the learn their father spat upon our Constitution in order to advance our Fifth Column, democrat party leadership’s, socialist/Marxist agenda.

JWK

They are not “liberal leaders”. They are conniving Marxists leaders who use the cloak of government force to keep themselves in power by stealing and then redistributing the wealth which wage earners, business and investors have worked to create.


#70

Don’t forget the tech billionaires… I’m sure they are ready to spread their wealth. They are angles of empathy, revolted by greed, and should obviously be glad to open free clinics on their property…

I’m surprised they haven’t done it already…lol!


#71

Probably won’t get to read about it. Kind of like the socialist holocaust of last century. The greatest mass murder history and it’s not in the history books…sadly!


#72

The Obamacare ruling by Justice Roberts is very similar to the unauthorized expansion of Congress’ defined and limited powers which took place when the Supreme Court lied that the Social Security Act was constitutional under Congress’ power to spend for the “general welfare”.

So now, thanks to Justice Roberts, not only does our federal government have control over the elderly’s retirement savings, but also controls the people’s health care needs . . . neither of which is an assigned power granted to Congress under our written Constitution.

JWK

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.___ Tenth Amendment


#73

If they’re going to die than they better do it! And decrease the surplus population!


#74

Are you saying the socialists who control California’s government will not exercise their reserved powers under the Tenth Amendment and provide healthcare to the poor, needy and millions of illegal aliens who reside in their sanctuary cities?

JWK

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.___ Tenth Amendment


#75

I’m still trying to figure this out. Is the Obamacare penalty / tax a penalty or a tax? Obama called it one thing, then his attorneys argued it was something else. We were completely lied to on this.


#76

Actually, “Obama’s lawyers” argued that Congress had the power via the Commerce Clause.

Roberts found it in taxing power all on his own.


#77

What do you think of the severability argument Sullivan makes? Will it stand on appeal?


#78

And he lied when he wrote that “The shared responsibility payment is thus not a direct tax that must be apportioned among the several States.” He ignored the historical characteristics which identify a direct tax as understood by our founders. In fact, the shared responsibility payment is characteristic of a direct tax!

A review of Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations, a contemporary writing of the time which our Founders were familiar with, we find the following reference regarding a capitation tax as being a direct tax:

“Capitation taxes, so far as they are levied upon the lower ranks of people, are direct taxes upon the wages of labor.” Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations, id. at pg. 540.

The shared responsibility payment is in fact to be levied directly upon the wage earner and computed from annual wages earned, and thus takes the form of a direct tax as understood by our founders!

The fact is, there is a consistency among our forefathers comments that direct taxes are those assessed to the individual by government, while indirect taxes are costs added by government to things which individuals are free to acquired or reject. For example, Hamilton’s brief in the Hylton carriage case which Roberts quoted says: ’The following are presumed to be the only direct taxes: Capitation or poll taxes, taxes on lands and buildings, general assessments, whether on the whole property of individuals, or on their whole real or personal estate. All else must, of necessity, be considered as indirect taxes.' In each of the above cases the individual is assessed directly by government.

Additionally, is it not a fact that the shared responsibly payment is proposed to be assessed from a working person’s annually earned wage, which is his/her property?

JWK

If, by calling a tax indirect when it is essentially direct, the rule of protection could be frittered away, one of the great landmarks defining the boundary between the nation and the states of which it is composed, would have disappeared, and with it one of the bulwarks of private rights and private property. POLLOCK v. FARMERS’ LOAN & TRUST CO., 157 U.S. 429 (1895)


#79

Democrats love slavery!


#80

Not just that, but since the penalty is paid because you didn’t follow a federal rule it should be understood to be a fine. There is no delegated power to tax not obeying regulations. And people deserve due process when they are accused of violating a regulation.


#81

Choosing not to engage in commerce, or commerce among their several States, are not commerce among the States. And the federal has no lawful power to regulate what merely affects commerce.