Does the Mueller report open with a lie?

[H_Arendt]

@Jezcoe

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Jezcoe

@H_Arendt

@MarkyS

Wrong.

The Benghazi investigations went on and on because the Obama WH kept STONE-WALLING on the information that the Congress was asking for, often invoking executive privilege, and when they finally released it, under court order, that panel which had asked for it had already concluded and a new panel had to start, so that happened 8 times, as information kept dribbling in. That is ALL on the Obama administration - not the Congress.

This is COMPLETELY the reverse of what the Trump administration did with Mueller - giving him everything he asked for, including millions of documents and any witness he wanted and never once invoking executive privilege for the entire time Mueller was in operation - virtually FULL transparency.

But we kept learning NEW things about Benghazi with each new panel. For instance, it was the last one that revealed emails that proved the Obama administration KNEW it was a terrorist attack on the night of the attack, and not the LIE they told us, about a protest getting out of control.

It was also the last one that revealed Clinton had been using a private server for her government emails.

So, don’t tell me it was a waste of time to keep after them.

M

The Mueller Report makes clear how much lying and withholding of information the Trump Administration engaged in regarding the Special Counsel’s investigation.

Instead of making stuff up, read the report.

I also wonder how people would have felt if it was known in 2016 that candidate Trump was secretly pursuing a real estate deal in Moscow that included using funding from a bank under US sanctions.

As it was… Libs talked so much about his business and their perceived conflicts that it would have been no different had voter known details. They would have still weighed Hillary in one hand and Trump in the other and decided that there was no greater evil this country could suffer than another Clinton president… especially that one who is the incarnation of Lucifer and a flim flam man and Jim Jones all rolled into one.

It was bad enough that Clinton conned these young women and many on this forum. Look at their faces as they realize they were conned. The rest of us were not so misled.

People act like the President won with more than the thinnest of margins across three key States and that the information that the Clinton email investigation was reopened without bearing any fruit was public while the investigation into the Trump campaign was kept secret.

Not all of the information was known about Trump and I suspect that people who would be thinking that it was no big deal that a guy running for President was inking a deal with a foreign bank under US sanctions now would feel a little bit different back then.

The FBI announced it was reopening the Clinton investigation. The FBI never disclosed the Trump Investigation during the campaign. And from this we are to conclude that the FBI favored Clinton.

Not very credible.

[SeaManatee]

The deep state did EVERYTHING they could to stop Trump!

[Call_me_Ishmael]

Coulda, woulda, shoulda…

What happened to #factsmatter ?

Clinton supporters were conned, led to believe her election was the most inevitable event ever to occur in this century. #factsmatter…

[H_Arendt]

@SeaManatee

The deep state did EVERYTHING they could to stop Trump!

If the Deep State existed and had so much power wouldn’t they have been able to stop Trump?

I suppose they failed because Putin bested them.

[Jezcoe]

@Call_me_Ishmael

Coulda, woulda, shoulda…

What happened to #factsmatter ?

Clinton supporters were conned, led to believe her election was the most inevitable event ever to occur in this century. #factsmatter.

She did get millions of more votes.

But not in the right states.

But please… let us not pretend that the amount of people who actually swung the election could fill a football stadium.

It was a lot closer than Trump supporters want to admit and the next time around there will be a record to run on.

[wonderingrover]

@Call_me_Ishmael

Coulda, woulda, shoulda…

What happened to #factsmatter ?

Clinton supporters were conned, led to believe her election was the most inevitable event ever to occur in this century. #factsmatter.

Well, if we’re discussing facts, let’s not forget this one. The two lousiest candidates for president in my lifetime were nominated by the major parties in 2016. One of them was going to win, and we will be stuck with the winner until 2020.

I, for one, hope that each party puts forward an actual adult candidate in the presidential race as an alternative to the 71 year old child that we have occupying the White House at the moment. I’m sure that, given 2 adult candidates, we should be able to get one of them into office in 2020.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@Jezcoe

@Call_me_Ishmael

Coulda, woulda, shoulda…

What happened to #factsmatter ?

Clinton supporters were conned, led to believe her election was the most inevitable event ever to occur in this century. #factsmatter.

She did get millions of more votes.

But not in the right states.

But please… let us not pretend that the amount of people who actually swung the election could fill a football stadium.

It was a lot closer than Trump supporters want to admit and the next time around there will be a record to run on.

Oh wait… maybe we have a disconnect. I was referring to the 2016 election in which Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump ran campaigns to win more votes in the electoral college.

Had there been a popular election, I’m sure they would have run their campaigns differently. Or do you think they are the same?

[Jezcoe]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Jezcoe

@Call_me_Ishmael

Coulda, woulda, shoulda…

What happened to #factsmatter ?

Clinton supporters were conned, led to believe her election was the most inevitable event ever to occur in this century. #factsmatter.

She did get millions of more votes.

But not in the right states.

But please… let us not pretend that the amount of people who actually swung the election could fill a football stadium.

It was a lot closer than Trump supporters want to admit and the next time around there will be a record to run on.

Oh wait… maybe we have a disconnect. I was referring to the 2016 election in which Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump ran campaigns to win more votes in the electoral college.

Had there been a popular election, I’m sure they would have run their campaigns differently. Or do you think they are the same?

Yes.

Donald Trump won the electoral college with slim margins in three key states.

This time he has a record to run on and a lot can happen between now and Election Day.

[pam95650]

As far as I’m concerned, anything anyone says about the Report without reading it first, has no credibility.

Instead of listening to someone else’s opinion, just read it yourself or listen to it on Audible (free download.)

[pam95650]

EXACTLY!! Fact checking is so important instead of relying on conspiracy talking points.

[Roxiebelle]

@Bill.in.PA

Was the basis for the surveillance and multiyear investigation of the Trump campaign really opposition research from Democrats?

YES it was! The Dossier was DNC and Hillary opposition research to use against Trump during the campaign but it couldn’t be verified so they used a work around by leaking it the media and presenting the dossier as legitimate foreign intelligence as a basis to get a FISA warrant and a Special Counsel investigation.

The whole damned investigation was illegitimate from the get go and Mueller knew it either immediately or no later then 6 months into it but continued with the witch hunt for political reasons and to throw the Democrat dogs a bone they could chew on for years.

Its the biggest scandal this country has ever seen and the Dems are all about being “historic” and they really have made history with this scam!

[pam95650]

I’m sorry, but the voters that were conned were the trump supporters. I voted for Hillary even though I didn’t like her because I felt (and still do) feel trump would have been worse and I was right. The fact that trump cheated contractors, students from TU, failed businesses, bankruptcies, immoral, adulterer, and ONE HEAVYWEIGHT LIAR was (still is) someone who shouldn’t be POTUS.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

Saying that is hilarious in the face of the evidence provided by the faces of the bamboozled and disillusioned people in this picture who realized on election night 2016… they have been conned.

Believing otherwise will simply result in more pictures like this one but dated November 2020.

[Oryx]

@Call_me_Ishmael

Saying that is hilarious in the face of the evidence provided by the faces of the bamboozled and disillusioned people in this picture who realized on election night 2016… they have been conned.

Those people are upset because Donald Trump won the election. What con?

[lessright]

Your debating the ‘fact’ that the con was Hillary (or the MSM) said Hillary would win and she didn’t.

By that logic, close to 50% of all political races are “cons”.

A waste of time to engage except for entertainment purposes.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

They were sold the story that Trump had no chance. Would you like to see evidence of that?

- YouTube

#factsmatter

- YouTube

[Oryx]

Only people who don’t understand statistics and polling think Trump had no chance. The map in the video you posted uses words such as “likely” and “lean.” You’re undermining your own argument.

[DougBH]

@gooddad409

@AZslim

The dossier was started by Republicans during the primaries.

Where does Rush get his information about Mueller testifying?

I think it was the Bush camp that started the dossier but then dropped it.

Hillary picked it up and ran with it though.

I must say Rush is much more dependable than any of the left wing media.

Again, false. The Republicans hired the same firm. Neither Steele nor the dossier were involved until after the Democrats had taken over.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

Doesn’t seem like Rachael Maddow understands statistics and polling.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

But …but…but… they were told otherwise.