Does religion point the way to the best earthly government?

According to the Bible, God is king, and those who believe will be entering his “kingdom.”

Nothing about democracy, socialism, capitalism, etc.

If Christians are to follow the teachings of God, does it follow that rather than those forms of government, kingdoms with one king to rule over everyone else would be the the perfect form of government on Earth?

If not,what form of government for people did God espouse?

No it doesn’t.

Remember, the Israelites begged God for a king, and God warned them against government ruled by a king. The Israelites insisted. How did that work out for them?

Before kings, they had Judges appointed by God.

I was thinking about Saul, David and King Ashoka, King Arthur and Gilgamesh, comparing stories, so read Samuel today.

There is also the Universal Monarch ideal. In Buddhism, there were “Wheel Rolling Kings.”. They were imperfect, with scandalous events and actions, murder, fratricide, patricide, but later were converted and became protectors of religion and created brief golden ages. In some cases the Kings would lose faith and face a crisis that would nearly topple them until they reaffirmed their faith. Generally when the winds changed dynasties would crumble.

In India, in King Ashoka’s case, He had been a fierce warlord and the kingly lineage fought to the death, internally, then he had his religious awakening, repentance, conversion and realized compassion. From then on he ruled over a large kingdom and it became a 40 year Golden Age, but after Ashoka, the dynasty fell again into chaos and murder. The wheel of karmic entanglements would roll on. Their actions and effects would be felt by the people. Generally Golden Ages ensued when the Kings wealth was used to support religion. In the case of Ashoka, he supported multiple religions simultaneously with his wealth.

In both the east and west, the Kings, had horrific histories, with occasional and transient bright spots. Remarkable karmic struggles ensued globally and all were like reflections of the lifestates of the people in various locals and eras.

It is always the people’s karmic result to have their leaders, wars and government. Sometimes there were periods of great inspiration.

The ideal of the Government of the People, By the people, & For the People. should be much appreciated along with Freedom of Religion, yet this too is subject to degradation, as a reflection of the people losing faith.

A few of our Founders didn’t want certain segments of the population to vote.

The ideal of Government for the people, by the people, etc. is great, but when it comes down to practice…it’s always been what…40% of people vote?

And our politicians have always been corrupt, enriching themselves. Cronyism has been rife since day one.

Interestingly, “God’s” preferred form of government was essentially anarchy with common law Judges to resolve disputes. :smile:

The original constitution left it entirely up to the states. A state was (and is) a sovereign entity. Different states had different opinions. The union was tenuous. You can’t legislate perfect agreement, Amendments to the US constitution were enacted as time marched on and agreements were made.

If you hate the USA so much, you are free to leave.

“Anarchy” is not an applicable word. If people with strong faith are prevalent among the people then Government becomes fused with religious ideals naturally.

I think I’ll stay and fix that about it which I dislike. That’s the beauty of the USA - freedom of speech, and the ability to modify what I consider corrupt goverment practices.

As an aside, are you seriously defending our corrupt politicians? Or do you think that only one side is corrupt?

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Both sides are corrupt.

Trump was elected for a reason.

You bleed into hate and leftist atheist bs.

So in your opinion all atheists are leftists?

Well, if you don’t like the leftists, you are free to move when they come into power.

God didn’t organize His people, and He didn’t give any man the authority to organize them. He left them free to worship Him in Spirit and in Truth.

Romans 8:14 “For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the spirit of sonship. When we cry, “Abba! Father!” 16 it is the Spirit himself bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.”

God’s children are a kingdom of priests. We are the Royal priesthood. We are not under law, but under grace. “Grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”

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No. There are some fruit cake Libertarians that don’t know the meaning of the word.

Do Republican atheists exist?

You seem full of rage. Surprising for a Buddhist.

According to Pew, 15% of Republicans are atheist.

Of course as with all polls, they probably only talked to 1,000 people, if that many.

Funnily enough, their polls say 69% of Buddhists are Democrats.


I am neither party. I vote against baby killing, commie, globalist lovers and anything. Anti-American. Those people tend to be atheists.

That’s a lot of generalizing and assuming.

You consider being against political corruption anti-American. Sad.