Does religion introduce harm?

What ever happened to judge not that ye be judged,and letting God take care of everything.

Remember all those children God ordered killed in the Old Testament? Maybe he’s doing that a different way today with abortion.

Sounds like a psycho.

Nazis, Commies.

Of course

Read Mein Kampf, Hitler believed he was doing gods work. And nope the commies did nothing in the name of atheism.

It was all done under the Christian banner by men. However, you don’t read, in my initial statement I said it wasn’t religion it was man using religion. No one isn’t blaming Yeshua for none of this, so you’re making things up because I did not do that.
So all the other nonsense you spouted was not only unnecessary it was crap…here’s some toilet tissue. You could not be any more wrong about my faith in Christ.

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In the Church During COVID-19 thread I posted the church I attend and invited folks who don’t have online capabilities to check us out, a place I’ve been a member of for 19 years and the ministry that led me to Christ on March 18th 2001. I’m use to people like you, I get these types of reactions and post like yours all the time on Christian based forums especially when comes to my stance on this president.

Communism is the prime example of militant atheism. Tens of millions of people have died as a result of wars, famines, and persecutions used to establish and sustain officially atheist Communist states.

The Soviet Union was the first communist state. The Russian Civil War 5,000,000–9,000,000 established the officially atheist state and killed 5 to 9 million people, mostly civilians. That was in just the first few years of the regime the lasted over 70 years.

The Great Leap Forward in China (1958 to 1962) is another example. Between 15 and 45 million died in the Great Famine that resulted from forced collectivization and other upheavals as a result of this policy.

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So no they did nothing in the name of atheism.

You are welcome to your opinion wrong though it is.

Those guys you listed are televangelists. Never have taken them seriously especially Osteen who i think of as a motivational speaker rather than a preacher.

Don’t regard them as evangelicals either.Nice try though.

My mother, was a devout evangelical, and watched all of them.

Speaking in tongues, healing the sick, wash the blood of Jesus over you to keep your spirit safe…etc…etc…that, is the essence of a cult. And those Televangelists preach the same thing…except Olsteen…he using a more modern approach. Same crap though.

I went to a few of her churches… and listened to her for 25+ years after she was born again.

So are you saying your evangelical church does not preach that stuff? If not, it ain’t evangelical.

Wow. I could get real close to which denomination your mother was. I’m not going there however.

Have a nice night.

A basic tenet of Communism was militant atheism and that includes violent repression of all kinds religion. The degree of persecution may change, but persecution continued.

If the Soviet history of militant atheism sound like a distant echo consider the ongoing persecution of Falun Gong:

My understanding is that Falun Gong does to profess a belief in God as understood in the west, but it still provided a dangerous alternative to Communist ideology in the view of the government.

More people go to their church than yours. You may not take them seriously but plenty of Americans do.

Nope its not, sorry.

Wiki

Communism (from Latin communis, “common, universal”) is a philosophical, social, political, economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of a communist society, namely a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money and the state.

Communism includes a variety of schools of thought which broadly include Marxism and anarchism (especially anarcho-communism) as well as the political ideologies grouped around both. All of these share the analysis that the current order of society stems from its economic system and mode of production, capitalism; that in this system there are two major social classes; that conflict between these two classes is the root of all problems in society; and that this situation will ultimately be resolved through a social revolution. The two classes are the proletariat (the working class)—who must work to survive and who make up the majority within society—and the bourgeoisie (the capitalist class)—a minority who derives profit from employing the working class through private ownership of the means of production. According to this analysis, revolution would put the working class in power and in turn establish social ownership of the means of production which is the primary element in the transformation of society towards communism.

Along with social democracy, communism became the dominant political tendency within the international socialist movement by the 1920s. While the emergence of the Soviet Union as the world’s first nominally communist state led to communism’s widespread association with the Soviet economic model and Marxism–Leninism, some economists and intellectuals argued that in practice the model functioned as a form of state capitalism, or a non-planned administrative or co

Cult is a mostly overused term.

Most religions are not cults.

While some may have one or two elements of being cults, even those are not true cults.

Scientology is clearly a cult.
Jehovah’s Witnesses are a semi-cult.
Numerous offshoots of Mormonism are either cults or semi-cults.

Most mainstream Christian denominations are neither cults nor have any significant aspects of being cults.

The Amish and certain other denominations do have an aspect of cultism, in that they resort to shunning members that are out of communion.

Some good signs of a cult:

  1. Difficultly of leaving, difficulty of removing family members. Separation of a departed member from their family still in the cult.

  2. Limitation of contact with persons outside the cult. Limitations of contact with the outside world.

  3. Attempts by the cult to discourage any critical thinking.

  4. Cult of leadership within the overall cult.

I think common sense definition of a cult is a religion that is not mainstream, I’m sure the roman’s considered christianity a cult.

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  1. All of these happen to those with deeply religious families when they try to leave.

  2. Again all these happen. I grew up in town that was 90% mormon. Many of the mormon parents forbid their children from playing with the non mormon kids like me.

  3. Absolutely happens in all mainstream religions. Bring critical thinking like the scientific impossibility of many events depicted in the bible and you’ll be criticized, shunned, and cursed at.

  4. Cult of leadership. You mean like the Pope and all the cult like stuff that goes in electing them? Or the president of the mormon church or of Joseph Smith?

All religions are cults 100%. Some are just more mainstream than the others and don’t like the use of the term as it is a loaded term.

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Kidding yourself. Everything the Nazis or commies did was to replace Religion.

Finally, more than one sentence! Even if it is just a copy and paste from someone else!

:rofl:

All of these also sometimes happen to a person who leaves atheism and becomes a believer. So, atheism must also be a cult.

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Sure. :laughing: