Disney has lost 200 BILLION DOLLARS in Two Years

[TheRedComet]

These things go in cycles.

In the 50s it was all about big budget dramas, usually period dramas. Then they ran those into the ground and everyone lost interest.

In the 60s and early 70s it was all about Westerns. Then they ran those into the ground and everyone stopped going to see them.

Then from the late 70s through the mid 80s it was all about science fiction. Then those got ran into the ground. There was also a revival of period big dramas and those died out fast since they were getting ran into the ground.

Mid 80s through the late 90s was the golden age of the action hero movie. Then those got dumb and were ran into the ground.

Early through mid 00s the irreverent comedy dominated the market. Then those got sanitized and ran into the ground.

Finally we come up the modern era, which has been overly dominated by superheroes. And now those have been ran into the ground.

I personally think Westerns will be the next dominant genre. And Hollywood will run them into the ground again within 8 years.

[TheRedComet]

It’s a solid film.

But it’s one of those movies where you can tell its development was an absolute train wreck. Too many hands in the cake with the Flash. So we ended up with a decent movie that could have been so much more.

The CGI and cinematography are the biggest giveaways of its troubled development. Some scenes look FANTASTIC. Properly high budget, correctly edited, beautiful picture scapes.

Then other scenes look like utter trash that was thrown together at the last second by overworked CGI artists who didn’t know what they were supposed be creating.

[Sknyluv]

Finding joy in the financial downfall of a company because of some perceived woke grievance is stupid.

[PurpnGold]

@Steel-W0LF

@PurpnGold

@Steel-W0LF

@WuWei

Sound of Freedom is doing well, no?

Yes and I’m going to see it real soon. Maybe tonight.

My statement isn’t tryin go to imply there won’t be movies that do well anymore.

More that “we” may have to adjust our metric of what a movie that does well is, and what it should cost to make.

With the cheaper methods of watching movies out there now, a movie that made $500 million pre-Covid will bring in a lot less now but might even have more people have seen it. So which makes it the better movie? The higher dollar figure, or more viewers?

My prediction is we’re going to see a shift in the way Hollywood spends its money as well. Salaries will come down some and production costs will come down so that movies are still profitable with the smaller dollar amounts they bring in.

OR

They will do something completely stupid like add commercials to bring in ad revenue. I can see them trying this and it backfiring spectacularly.

Very good take. I agree.

Look at the highest grossing movies this year… Mario and Spiderverse. Animated films typically have a lower cost to develop by a higher gross because it focused on kids.

Mario had the added advantage of nostalgia with Adults as well.

Studios will need to get a bit more unique as well. Marvel has driven the box office for years and I do think there is fatigue.

I agree. Especially with the last part.

I think for the last 6 years or maybe a bit longer Hollywood has gotten lazy writers.

Very little in the way of original productions, while churning out tons of remakes or needless sequels.

Take Indiana Jones. I saw it. I didn’t dislike it and don’t really see what some of the haters are complaining about.

So while it was “good”, there was very little “Oh man we gotta go see this movie, it looks awesome!” It was just another Indiana Jones movie.

That’s my take on Marvel.

Up until Endgame, I absolutely had to go to see the movies in IMAX with my kids.

Now, I am content with just waiting until it comes on Disney+. I think that switch is very common now, like you described.

We need more original content. Oppenheimer is a good example of a movie I will absolutely see in IMAX.

[bigtwnvin]

Iger should reach out to DeSantis and simply say “No mas”.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the House of Mouse is sold if losses continue.

[Samm]

@biggestal99

@Ceasar

Oh, and you missed the part where attendance is way down and they lost 165 BILLION DOLLARS…

i posted what was reported and that report was attendance was up.

maybe next report you will be right, but the latest is attendance is up.

No, what you posted was just words. You didn’t cite an article.

[TheRedComet]

I don’t find any joy in it.

I want them to make better movies. And it has nothing to do with any perceived notion of wokeness.

I just want more original films. Better writing. CGI not rushed to the point where it looks WORSE than 1993’s Jurassic Park. And I want movies to be edited correctly again. Not every movie needs to be 3 hours long. Many of these modern films (both Disney and otherwise) would be so much better if they cut forty minutes out of them.

[coolidge]

I am with you on lack of originality. I also agree with special effects. Somehow good acting has taken a back seat to how good movie looks.
But i do believe the level of wokeness has reached a boiling point. The movies suck because of forced messages.

[Ceasar]

@bigtwnvin

Iger should reach out to DeSantis and simply say “No mas”.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the House of Mouse is sold if losses continue.

And that would be a good thing.

[PurpnGold]

@coolidge

The movies suck because of forced messages.

What “forced message” is there in the top 10 movies?

[coolidge]

What are the top 10 movies?

[biggestal99]

@Steel-W0LF

Just noticed you said a date:
Why did you go back to old articles in may when there are current articles with numbers?

Is it because the current ones don’t say what you think they should so used old irrelevant articles hoping no one would go look for current information

it is the last time disney reported earning (may 10th). anything else besides official earnings report is irrelevant and speculation.

Allan

[biggestal99]

@Samm

No, what you posted was just words. You didn’t cite an article.

it was the last quarterly earnings report.

as yogi says you can look it up.

comes out every 3 months for disney.

i know you like opinions and not facts.

Allan (facts over opinions)

[Smyrna]

@biggestal99

lol.

this from an article from may.

“Attendance at themes parks and resorts drove revenue this quarter. Disney’s Parks, Experiences and Products division increased its profits by 20% to $2.2 billion.”

profits UP.

of course, that goes directly against your narrative.

disney+ did lose subscribers because they raised their prices by 3 bucks a month. (shock)

Allan

Hey obviously successful bizness man…what’s 165 - 2.2?

[biggestal99]

@Smyrna

Hey obviously successful bizness man…what’s 165 - 2.2?

do you not know the difference between profits and market cap?

you want me to teach you?

market cap is the number of shares in a company x the stock market price.

profits are revenue minus cost.

the amount of money that shareholders make or lose have NOTHING to do with profits made.

Allan

[biggestal99]

@biggestal99

do you not know the difference between profits and market cap?

you want me to teach you?

market cap is the number of shares in a company x the stock market price.

profits are revenue minus cost.

the amount of money that shareholders make or lose have NOTHING to do with profits made.

Allan

hint disney will post a profit in the 3q of fiscal year 2023.

Allan

[Axxowiz]

At this pace

[WuWei]

@biggestal99

the amount of money that shareholders make or lose have NOTHING to do with profits made.

Well, that’s wrong.

[Roxiebelle]

@Ceasar

People left and right except the total commie far left don’t want their children exposed to half naked pole dancing trans adults in schools, naked trans/gay parades or their children being indoctrinated in schools to be trans or sexualized in grade school.

Don’t forget porn in school libraries in K through 12 grades.

When the lying leftists accuse DeSantis of banning books, this is what they are yapping about.

[biggestal99]

@WuWei

Well, that’s wrong

nope, in this case i know more than you.

stay in your lame.

market cap has absolute nothing to do with profits.

market cap is strictly controlled by stock trading.

just ask anyone.

Allan