Did Hillary Sell Access to "Foreign Actors"

I apologize for the delay. New posters are only permitted 23 posts per day. I did not know this.

I suppose I should ask you to define “conspiracy” so we can be working with the same meaning … And then I ask if you can think of even ONE illegal act you believe evidence shows either Bill or Hillary engaged in?

Then I ask, “Have you read the report or just watched and read the media coverage?”

I apologize for not responding sooner. I didn’t realize we are limited in our number of posts in the beginning and work kept me away.

Correct me if I am wrong but didn’t they plead guilty to lying to the FBI? You know, like Clinton’s tech guy did on multiple occasions and instead he was granted immunity?

The handful of instances Comey emailed his gmail account from his government account and CC’d other government accounts is nothing similar to the Clinton scenario. I’d posit you haven’t even read what those instances were…

I did not compare Comey’s use to Clintons. However, neither was a correct action.

I’d posit that very few of the conservatives who are upset about this have read about those instances.

Who are you trying to kid? She knew exactly what she was doing and intentionally used the private account ostensibly to avoid FOIA requests to produce her emails.

She knowingly then sent and received classified communications on this account and when congress subpoenaed her emails had the servers and devices wiped clean and physically destroyed.

Even more damning when her own computer people warned her of attacks and vulnerabilities in the system instead of moving her communications to the secure DoS servers she insisted on keeping the system as is and further reviews have shown that it’s a virtual certainty the accounts were compromised.

Guccifer in fact made it known publicly that they had successfully hacked into her email.

None of this was an innocent mistake. It began with an intentional attempt to avoid transparency and throughout it’s use she made decisions again and again to unlawfully transmit and receive classified emails and continued doing so even after being warned the system was vulnerable and under attack.

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The emails sent to her were being sent from their proper place and she knowingly received, stored them unlawfully and improperly, then later destroyed them.

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Obviously yes. She would do anything for a million bucks! She is an American sell out just like the rest of the political hacks in this country that have lost all their minds and any sense of justice. Just my take as an educated historian. Dems/media/hollywood collusion/brainwashing propaganda/lies are more in line with Nazi Germany than anything this administration has done.
God help us!

Intent is not something that you, nor anyone else you linked, gets to decide.

You lack the knowledge to do so anyway.

That’s a question of fact for a jury.

Who do you think you’re kidding?

Who do you think you’re kidding? You can’t even be honest about the plain language of the statue.

Yeah, go back, Captain of Honesty, and quote the part in bold that you quoted previously and to which I was responding.

Just manning up and admitting your ignorance on the topic would’ve saved you so much time.

Back to your jury-of-one decisions.

Hop to.

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Soon this expert will be quoting the dictionary definition of “gross negligence” again.

You mean the part leading up to the above where it says “OR” leading into this paragraph?

Criminal intent is not a required element to convict someone under the gross negligence statute which is exactly what I said originally and you argued. I can quote that for you again if you like too.

[quote=“WildRose, post:34, topic:4279, full:true”]
Criminal intent is not a required element under the Espionage acts.

> Gross negligence is grounds for conviction.

[/quote]And back to the beginning.

Focus Wildrose, this is about 793(f) (by your choice) and deals solely with how classified information is handled. This is not about FOIA. Yes, it’s extremely easy to prove she set up a server intentionally. No, it’s not easy she intentionally used that server for classified information as would be required to prosecute her under 793(f). You said intent wasn’t necessary and I demonstrated that it definitely is.

You can post about vulnerabilities. You can even post Giccifer’s completely unvarified claims. You have not argued against what I wrote in my last reply.

That’s incorrect. She did not receive any emails from the governments classified email services. I don’t know if she even could if she wanted to. Emails with classified information received from state.gov domains are not “the proper place”.

You seem to now be obfuscating classified information with presidential records, intentionally or unintentionally. Maybe because your statements about the espionage act are falling apart.

The legislative, judicial and case law records tell us differently.

This has nothing to do with presidential records, and any emails sent to her from any gov’t server containing classified materials would qualify as would any emails she sent including classified information obtained anywhere else.

Classified information is exchanged between DoS employees daily and they send/receive same from other branches as well.

No, they do not.