Crime: Explained in a way even liberals can understand (I hope)

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

@Liberty323

It’s not the total number of crimes but rather the rate of violent crimes per 100K that makes them cesspools. That said, NYC is only half the cesspool that Chicago and Houston are.

I understand that.

I wonder if NYC is in the ranking at the top of safest big cities.

I think in order to make that claim, you have to be able to move anywhere at anytime. Certain areas are no doubt making it seem that way.

[FreeAndClear]

@WuWei

@FreeAndClear

@Liberty323

It’s not the total number of crimes but rather the rate of violent crimes per 100K that makes them cesspools. That said, NYC is only half the cesspool that Chicago and Houston are.

I understand that.

I wonder if NYC is in the ranking at the top of safest big cities.

I think in order to make that claim, you have to be able to move anywhere at anytime. Certain areas are no doubt making it seem that way.

Right but just like Chicago where violence is highly concentrated to specific spots most of the violence in nyc is also concentrated to specific spots

That’s why the New York post explodes when things happen from financial district which is the southern tip of Manhattan to basically 86th street. Because that’s not a common occurrence

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

Your mistake is you have been indoctrinated to believe men commit crimes because they are poor-it’s not true.

It’s data.

Higher income areas have less crime than lower income areas. It’s a fact.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

They aren’t stealing food.

I wouldn’t steal food if I were poor. It’s hard to steal $800 worth of food at once.

I’d steal an iPhone, sell it for $800 and then buy $800 worth of food.

[altair1013]

@PurpnGold

Red states have the highest crime rates.

Blue cities have the highest crime rates.

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

@WuWei

@FreeAndClear

@Liberty323

It’s not the total number of crimes but rather the rate of violent crimes per 100K that makes them cesspools. That said, NYC is only half the cesspool that Chicago and Houston are.

I understand that.

I wonder if NYC is in the ranking at the top of safest big cities.

I think in order to make that claim, you have to be able to move anywhere at anytime. Certain areas are no doubt making it seem that way.

Right but just like Chicago where violence is highly concentrated to specific spots most of the violence in nyc is also concentrated to specific spots

That’s why the New York post explodes when things happen from financial district which is the southern tip of Manhattan to basically 86th street. Because that’s not a common occurrence

Agreed. That’s another reason why the pEr CaPiTa metric is useless.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

Your mistake is you have been indoctrinated to believe men commit crimes because they are poor-it’s not true.

It’s data.

Higher income areas have less crime than lower income areas. It’s a fact.

More policing
More security systems
More old women peeking out of windows

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

They aren’t stealing food.

I wouldn’t steal food if I were poor. It’s hard to steal $800 worth of food at once.

I’d steal an iPhone, sell it for $800 and then buy $800 worth of food.

Or chips and $775 worth of coke.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

More policing

There are less police patrolling higher income areas

@WuWei

More security systems

Sure. Mostly due to having higher income and more expensive assets to protect.

@WuWei

More old women peeking out of windows

You must be joking

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

They aren’t stealing food.

I wouldn’t steal food if I were poor. It’s hard to steal $800 worth of food at once.

I’d steal an iPhone, sell it for $800 and then buy $800 worth of food.

Or chips and $775 worth of coke.

Either way. Nobody who groceries should steal a cart full of groceries. Steal a smaller more valuable item and then sell it for cash… then get groceries.

You’ve never talked to anyone who’s lived that life, and it shows.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

There are less police patrolling higher income areas

[WuWei]

[WuWei]

They’re not hungry. They’re lazy.

[tnt]

Missouri rural areas:

Suddenly, 3 Tiny Missouri Towns Have Highest Crime Rate in State

1. Potosi, Missouri - crime rate 81.95 out of 1,000

Am I doing my math right? That’s 819.5 per 100K, right? Worse than most on your cities list.

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[RTchoke]

From the article:

I think I know what’s going on here. The crime rate is based on per capita numbers meaning one crime in Potosi dings it much worse than one crime in Saint Louis (of which there are tens of thousands). When you look at the data based on raw violent crime numbers, you once again see Kansas City followed by Saint Louis and Springfield at the top of the list.

[WuWei]

You see how stupid that metric is?

[PurpnGold]

@RTchoke

From the article:

I think I know what’s going on here. The crime rate is based on per capita numbers meaning one crime in Potosi dings it much worse than one crime in Saint Louis (of which there are tens of thousands). When you look at the data based on raw violent crime numbers, you once again see Kansas City followed by Saint Louis and Springfield at the top of the list.

Right… what is your point?

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

You see how stupid that meyric is?

It’s not stupid.

It shows how much more likely one is to see a crime in a certain area. And it’s the best way to compare two datasets where one is larger than the other.

1. If you are in a room with 1000 people and 10 people are going to rape. There is a 1 in 100 chance that someone is raped.

2. If you are in room of 10000 people and 10 people are going to rape… there is a 1 in 1000 chance

In which room are you safer from rape?

[e7alr]

No, because poverty is a symptom, not a cause.

[altair1013]

@PurpnGold

In which room are you safer from rape?

The one that’s in a red area where crime is much lower. Away from policies that treat the rapist gently.