COVID: The lesser flu

We already do, to the best of our ability.

I thought you had me on ignore.

The reality is that we are living a real life trolley experiment. There is no way to handle this that doesn’t produce death, either as an immediate consequence, or an indirect one. Don’t get it twisted, it’s all a matter of to which track do you want to flip the switch.

there was no outrage over flu deaths that year or any other year. they happen, every year. we don’t change the government because of it. I understand that without vaccines or therapeutics left to run wild COVID would have overwhelmed the medical system. That was good reason to take action, and we have avoided it.

Not even close and no.

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Of course we do. Today. The question is will we have more ability tomorrow?

Then why haven’t you answered me about Singapore?

The sample used for this study is a non-representative sample of Santa Clara as the participants were all recruited on Facebook. Several demographic groups were under-represented.

Other studies (with their own flaws) point to a mortality rate 3-4x the flu rate.

■■■■■■■■■ On the old boards (and even here lately), R’s blamed Obama for flu deaths and his lack of rapid response (or perceived per CEC and Trump).

if your point is that the death rate for COVID (even as inflated as it is) is lower for children under 19… thanks, you made it.

What impact will studies like this one have on mortality rate predictions?

They didn’t include the migrant worker dormitories in their screening and tracing process.

Same reason the church escaped South Korea’s processes…lack of transparency and inclusion.

Yes it does.

there’s a difference between outrage (hair on fire liberal standard) and simply stating facts about government failures.

The response to ebola by the previous admin was spot on. the response to h1n1 was sluggish and poor at best.

In a city-state of 5 million with water on 3 sides.

You think we might miss one or two?

Pay wall there…what were the conclusions and how were the people recruited?

Just. Like. The. Flu.

Into April, weekly covid-19 deaths climbed past those from accidents and chronic lower respiratory disease. And last week, covid-19 killed more people than normally die of cancer in this country in a week. Only heart disease was likely to kill more people that week.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/04/16/coronavirus-leading-cause-death/?arc404=true

“Analysis”

They’ve got you spooked.

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What part of their analysis do you take issue with?

and current estimates put the total at about the same as a bad year with flu, and that’s without wide spread use of therapeutics and no vaccine.

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No Trump supporter has discussed federal government’s failures for COVID-19. Its all praise and pass the buck.
And don’t try to go high road. When Ebola was the topic, Sean and the forum was ablaze with hair on fire screaming that Obama was going to get millions of Americans killed when Obama allowed one doctor who was infected to get medical attention.

“On April 15, 2009, the first infection was identified in California, according to the CDC, and less than two weeks later, on April 26, 2009, the Obama administration declared a public health emergency. The day before, on April 25, the World Health Organization had declared a public health emergency.”

How is this sluggish and poor?

We have been there since Monday.

Catch up on current data.