We already do, to the best of our ability.
I thought you had me on ignore.
We already do, to the best of our ability.
I thought you had me on ignore.
Their loved ones cared.
I read threads that folks are screaming “Constitutional infringement!” Look at flu deaths! This is nothing compared to that." To me, that means that these deaths don’t mean anything because someone (gasp) can’t get their hair cut!
The reality is that we are living a real life trolley experiment. There is no way to handle this that doesn’t produce death, either as an immediate consequence, or an indirect one. Don’t get it twisted, it’s all a matter of to which track do you want to flip the switch.
there was no outrage over flu deaths that year or any other year. they happen, every year. we don’t change the government because of it. I understand that without vaccines or therapeutics left to run wild COVID would have overwhelmed the medical system. That was good reason to take action, and we have avoided it.
JayJay: WuWei: JayJay: WuWei: Kevhead: zantax:if I don’t support shutting down the country over the flu, that means I don’t care about the tens of thousands of Americans it kills every year
The flu deaths are also over a whole year no? This is over a period of about 2 months and this is with the quarantine. Is this the comparison you’re after?
Season. About 6 months.
And COVID deaths have all occurred within 2 months and are equal already to a normal flu season.
Not to mention they’re coming in on top of the flu.
Not equal to, but close.
Yes, on top of the flu. The hospital system didn’t collapse, even in NYC. Mission accomplished.
Mission will be accomplished when we have the capability to “manage” the dance phase to the best of our ability.
We already do, to the best of our ability.
I thought you had me on ignore.
Not even close and no.
WuWei: JayJay: WuWei: JayJay: WuWei: Kevhead: zantax:if I don’t support shutting down the country over the flu, that means I don’t care about the tens of thousands of Americans it kills every year
The flu deaths are also over a whole year no? This is over a period of about 2 months and this is with the quarantine. Is this the comparison you’re after?
Season. About 6 months.
And COVID deaths have all occurred within 2 months and are equal already to a normal flu season.
Not to mention they’re coming in on top of the flu.
Not equal to, but close.
Yes, on top of the flu. The hospital system didn’t collapse, even in NYC. Mission accomplished.
Mission will be accomplished when we have the capability to “manage” the dance phase to the best of our ability.
We already do, to the best of our ability.
I thought you had me on ignore.
Not even close and no.
Of course we do. Today. The question is will we have more ability tomorrow?
Then why haven’t you answered me about Singapore?
Stanford is saying the true mortality rate may be as low as .01%, ten times lower than the flu.
The sample used for this study is a non-representative sample of Santa Clara as the participants were all recruited on Facebook. Several demographic groups were under-represented.
Other studies (with their own flaws) point to a mortality rate 3-4x the flu rate.
there was no outrage over flu deaths that year or any other year. they happen, every year. we don’t change the government because of it. I understand that without vaccines or therapeutics left to run wild COVID would have overwhelmed the medical system. That was good reason to take action, and we have avoided it.
■■■■■■■■■ On the old boards (and even here lately), R’s blamed Obama for flu deaths and his lack of rapid response (or perceived per CEC and Trump).
if your point is that the death rate for COVID (even as inflated as it is) is lower for children under 19… thanks, you made it.
The sample used for this study is a non-representative sample of Santa Clara as the participants were all recruited on Facebook. Several demographic groups were under-represented.
Other studies (with their own flaws) point to a mortality rate 3-4x the flu rate.
What impact will studies like this one have on mortality rate predictions?
Hundreds of thousands of L.A. County residents may have been infected with the coronavirus by early April, outpacing total of known cases, report says.
JayJay: WuWei: JayJay: WuWei: JayJay: WuWei: Kevhead: zantax:if I don’t support shutting down the country over the flu, that means I don’t care about the tens of thousands of Americans it kills every year
The flu deaths are also over a whole year no? This is over a period of about 2 months and this is with the quarantine. Is this the comparison you’re after?
Season. About 6 months.
And COVID deaths have all occurred within 2 months and are equal already to a normal flu season.
Not to mention they’re coming in on top of the flu.
Not equal to, but close.
Yes, on top of the flu. The hospital system didn’t collapse, even in NYC. Mission accomplished.
Mission will be accomplished when we have the capability to “manage” the dance phase to the best of our ability.
We already do, to the best of our ability.
I thought you had me on ignore.
Not even close and no.
Of course we do. Today. The question is will we have more ability tomorrow?
Then why haven’t you answered me about Singapore?
They didn’t include the migrant worker dormitories in their screening and tracing process.
Same reason the church escaped South Korea’s processes…lack of transparency and inclusion.
NuffSaid:Thank goodness no one gives a ■■■■ about the 42K that died.
As long as we dangle some stupid comparison between flu deaths and COVID-19 deaths.So if I don’t support shutting down the country over the flu, that means I don’t care about the tens of thousands of Americans it kills every year?
Yes it does.
there’s a difference between outrage (hair on fire liberal standard) and simply stating facts about government failures.
The response to ebola by the previous admin was spot on. the response to h1n1 was sluggish and poor at best.
WuWei: JayJay: WuWei: JayJay: WuWei: JayJay: WuWei: Kevhead: zantax:if I don’t support shutting down the country over the flu, that means I don’t care about the tens of thousands of Americans it kills every year
The flu deaths are also over a whole year no? This is over a period of about 2 months and this is with the quarantine. Is this the comparison you’re after?
Season. About 6 months.
And COVID deaths have all occurred within 2 months and are equal already to a normal flu season.
Not to mention they’re coming in on top of the flu.
Not equal to, but close.
Yes, on top of the flu. The hospital system didn’t collapse, even in NYC. Mission accomplished.
Mission will be accomplished when we have the capability to “manage” the dance phase to the best of our ability.
We already do, to the best of our ability.
I thought you had me on ignore.
Not even close and no.
Of course we do. Today. The question is will we have more ability tomorrow?
Then why haven’t you answered me about Singapore?
They didn’t include the migrant worker dormitories in their screening and tracing process.
Same reason the church escaped South Korea’s processes…lack of transparency and inclusion.
In a city-state of 5 million with water on 3 sides.
You think we might miss one or two?
JayJay:The sample used for this study is a non-representative sample of Santa Clara as the participants were all recruited on Facebook. Several demographic groups were under-represented.
Other studies (with their own flaws) point to a mortality rate 3-4x the flu rate.
What impact will studies like this one have on mortality rate predictions?
Hundreds of thousands in L.A. County may have been infected with coronavirus, study finds
Pay wall there…what were the conclusions and how were the people recruited?
Just. Like. The. Flu.
Into April, weekly covid-19 deaths climbed past those from accidents and chronic lower respiratory disease. And last week, covid-19 killed more people than normally die of cancer in this country in a week. Only heart disease was likely to kill more people that week.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/04/16/coronavirus-leading-cause-death/?arc404=true
“Analysis”
They’ve got you spooked.
“Analysis”
They’ve got you spooked.
What part of their analysis do you take issue with?
and current estimates put the total at about the same as a bad year with flu, and that’s without wide spread use of therapeutics and no vaccine.
there’s a difference between outrage (hair on fire liberal standard) and simply stating facts about government failures.
No Trump supporter has discussed federal government’s failures for COVID-19. Its all praise and pass the buck.
And don’t try to go high road. When Ebola was the topic, Sean and the forum was ablaze with hair on fire screaming that Obama was going to get millions of Americans killed when Obama allowed one doctor who was infected to get medical attention.
The response to ebola by the previous admin was spot on. the response to h1n1 was sluggish and poor at best.
“On April 15, 2009, the first infection was identified in California, according to the CDC, and less than two weeks later, on April 26, 2009, the Obama administration declared a public health emergency. The day before, on April 25, the World Health Organization had declared a public health emergency.”
How is this sluggish and poor?
We have been there since Monday.
Catch up on current data.