COVID: The lesser flu

For the third or fourth time studies have been released showing that COVID-19 rates of infection are much, much higher than what is currently reported. While these studies are just the beginning they all seem to point to one thing. The average rate of infection seems to be about 50X higher than reported cases.

Given the 50X higher rate of infection the morbidity rate would appear to be on average from these studies something between .3% to .4%. This would mark COVID-19 as being about 3X to 4X more deadly than the average common flu; or the equivalent of a really bad flu. This however does no take into account the fact that we have known effective therapeutics for the flu (tamiflu) and vaccines that are at least 50% effective on average. And, while the flu does change every year, there is also a bit of “herd immunity” with the standard flu.

The COVID-19 virus is a more stable genome than the standard flu. As such, it will mutate more slowly. This should have several effects, 1) Once developed, vaccines should be more effective against it over longer periods. 2) Herd immunity, once gained, should last longer making COVID-19 less of a threat with each “season”. 3) Once developed, therapeutics should be more effective.

All of that taken together should over time relegate COVID-19 to being “the lesser flu” as over time it should effect fewer people and vaccines and therapies should be more effective bringing the morbidity rate down to flu, or below flu type levels.

There was a day (before vaccines) when parents used to purposefully expose their children (between 5 and 8) to measles and mumps. There were occasional tragic results, but overall it was the right thing to do as children mostly recovered from them easily and the older you were when you contacted them the worse the outcome. I’m not sure we shouldn’t be doing the same thing now, since all the evidence seems to indicate the same pattern with COVID-19.

thoughts?

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Stanford is saying the true mortality rate may be as low as .01%, ten times lower than the flu.

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Thank goodness no one gives a ■■■■ about the 42K that died.
As long as we dangle some stupid comparison between flu deaths and COVID-19 deaths.

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So if I don’t support shutting down the country over the flu, that means I don’t care about the tens of thousands of Americans it kills every year?

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Yes, I’ve seen that. The studies range was 50X to 85X more incidence, which gives a huge range. Top end I belies was .37%. Successive studies all seem to overlap between 50X to 55X more incidence. Which would equate to around .35%. And that’s without effective therapeutics in wide use.

These shut downs were predicated on obviously inflated mortality rates, which should be obvious to anyone, you don’t get true mortality rates by dividing the number who die by the number of confirmed cases.

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Did you care about the 50,000 that died in 2014-15? Or did you get woke in January '17?

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“Effective”

Nobody gave a ■■■■ about the 60K who died from the flu a couple years ago either.

That said, what in my post would lead you to believe I, or anyone else, doesn’t give a ■■■■ about people dying?

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I get it. Outrage back then by Rs. Constitutional infringement in 2020. There’s only one difference.

The flu deaths are also over a whole year no? This is over a period of about 2 months and this is with the quarantine. Is this the comparison you’re after?

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No, you don’t get it. There was no outrage back then by Rs. Still none.

Season. About 6 months.

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And COVID deaths have all occurred within 2 months and are equal already to a normal flu season.

Not to mention they’re coming in on top of the flu.

Their loved ones cared.
I read threads that folks are screaming “Constitutional infringement!” Look at flu deaths! This is nothing compared to that." To me, that means that these deaths don’t mean anything because someone (gasp) can’t get their hair cut!

Not equal to, but close.

Yes, on top of the flu. The hospital system didn’t collapse, even in NYC. Mission accomplished.

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Yep sure looks the same

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To you.

Think about it Kev.

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Mission will be accomplished when we have the capability to “manage” the dance phase to the best of our ability.