Couple in New York both test positive after initial recovery

[WuWei]

@TommyLucchese

Who’s finger wagging?

You are. Appeal to pity.

[TommyLucchese]

@WuWei

What’s your plan?

The course we’ve already committed to. What’s yours? Besides saying “that’s the theory” and “nothing we can do but hope.”

[GWH]

@WuWei

@TommyLucchese

Who’s finger wagging?

You are. Appeal to pity.

It’s sad. No one can be pragmatic anymore.

[WuWei]

@TommyLucchese

@WuWei

What’s your plan?

The course we’ve already committed to. What’s yours? Besides saying “that’s the theory” and “nothing we can do but hope.”

Your course isn’t working. And it’s not sustainable. You sound like a french general in WWI.

[Bill.in.PA]

Three possible explanations for the apparent relapse:

1. The original virus lurked in at least one of their bodies and returned after they had lost immunity

2. They cleared the original virus but were infected with the same strain from someone else or from virus still present in their house. A study showed that SARS virus could live four weeks in a refrigerator:
   Can Coronavirus Survive in Your Refrigerator? Here’s What a Renowned Scientist Told Us – NBC Bay Area

3. They were still immune to the original strain but got infected with an new strain that was sufficiently different that the original immunity was no longer sufficient to prevent infection

None of the scenarios is reassuring that a vaccine will be completely effective, but no vaccine is 100% effective.

[TommyLucchese]

@WuWei

Your course isn’t working. And it’s not sustainable. You sound like a french general in WWI.

Yes this is totally comparable to the cult of the offensive. Try harder.

[JayJay]

@WuWei

@JayJay

@WuWei

@JayJay

@GWH

There is no plan that mitigates this. Natural selection.

If this is a weird virus…this may be our only recourse.

WHAT!?!

Unlike many people…my opinion changes as new facts come to light.

Suppose this virus is like HIV…it can lie dormant for a while and then spring into action again?

Then none of what we are planning to mitigate it will work…it will be unlike any respiratory virus we have dealt with before.

ACE2 receptors are ubiquitous on multiple tissue types.

If this virus can hide like HIV hides…it’s a whole new world.

What’s the new strategy?

I don’t know yet because we don’t know for sure what this virus is doing.

So far…SO FAR…it is still a tiny smattering of cases.

Only about 200 identified where this has happened out of 2 million identified = 0.01% of the cases.

We are learning as we go with this thing.

[GWH]

Why are there always three?

[TommyLucchese]

@GWH

It’s sad. No one can be pragmatic anymore.

Pragmatic would be saying that you’re personally willing to die for this. Or sacrifice family members. Unless it’s emotions preventing you from doing so.

[Bill.in.PA]

Would four be better? I could split point 2 into two parts.

[Blackwolf]

The old and weak need to remain isolated or take the risk with the rest of us. The US economy shouldn’t have to die for their sakes. Trust in Trump, and the Lord that those who truly contribute to the economy are safe enough.

Why is no one concerned about the jobmakers?

[GWH]

I am. That’s pragmatic. I accept my fate. You’re building walls to close me in. (In that post.) it doesn’t work like that. It’s becoming increasingly clear that there’s very little we can do about CV, and no amount of hysteria will change that.

[GWH]

just an observation. I do it too.

[TommyLucchese]

@GWH

I am. That’s pragmatic. I accept my fate. You’re building walls to close me in. (In that post.) it doesn’t work like that. It’s becoming increasingly clear that there’s very little we can do about CV, and no amount of hysteria will change that.

If we’d followed this advice instead of shutting down at the beginning, millions would have died. That’s a lot of things it it’s not pragmatism.

[GWH]

Those models failed. They’ve been revised over and over again, so really, you don’t know that to be true. More emotional histrionics.

[JayJay]

@Bill.in.PA

Would four be better? I could split point 2 into two parts.

One question...27 parts

[Bill.in.PA]

I have an engineering background; English is always a second language for engineers.

I do much better with numbers.

[JayJay]

@GWH

Those models failed. They’ve been revised over and over again, so really, you don’t know that to be true. More emotional histrionics.

The models did not “fail”.

The variables changed…including deliberate actions we took…that necessitated revised models.

That’s how this works.

Unless we can somehow go to other parts of the multiverse and see how other experiments read out.

[TommyLucchese]

@GWH

Those models failed. They’ve been revised over and over again, so really, you don’t know that to be true. More emotional histrionics.

What do you mean, failed? You mean that many people didn’t die because we took precautions? That’s not failing, that’s success.

[WuWei]

@Bill.in.PA

after they had lost immunity

Immunity?