Coronavirus Thread Political

[JimmyC]

@Ben_Natuf

@JimmyC

“There is no real sense in applying strict travel restrictions especially at this stage. It’s not going to help,” says Alessandro Vespignani, a computer scientist at the University of Indiana in Bloomington, whose team is also trying to predict the spread of the current outbreak.

by the time this was written, yeah

That article was written 2 weeks after the first person was identified with H1N1. Coronavirus was identified on January 8. Trump implemented China travel restrictions on January 31, 3 weeks later.

@Ben_Natuf

@JimmyC

The World Health Organization’s Emergency Committee also took this position at a meeting on Monday: “WHO does not recommend closing of borders and does not recommend restriction of travel,” said Keiji Fukuda, assistant director general for health security and environment.

don’t care about who’s politics

CDC had the same recommendation

@Ben_Natuf

@JimmyC

In a 2007 paper, Vespignani’s team modelled the spread of influenza pandemics of varying severities in 3100 urban centres in 220 countries. They also looked at the effectiveness of countermeasures including vaccination, administration of antiviral drugs such as Tamiflu, and travel restrictions.

A Draconian 10-fold reduction in airline travel would delay a pandemic by only a few weeks and have no effect on its overall health impact, Vespignani’s team concluded. Other measures – particularly widespread administration of antiviral drugs – proved far more effective at limiting the spread of hypothetical pandemics.

this one is appropriate and is a damn good reason to restrict. Covid-19 is not the flu, there are known effective treatments for the flu. for covid-19, treatments are now being developed. delaying the spread buys time to develop them and will ultimately save lives.

the rest also support the restrictions as all report it will delay the spread. what we need now is time. Sad the O’bama admin didn’t buy time, may have saved lives.

Can you find any contemporaneous reports where infectious disease experts were calling for Obama to implement travel restrictions?

[GWH]

The information isn’t being suppressed. You’re posting random twitter handles containing that information. This is a discussion forum, not a retweet landing page.

[GWH]

Read the rules and get back to me.

[SixFoot]

The CDC website you showed me before.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html

[SixFoot]

@Publius

Is that you, Donald?

May as well be. I’m taking up more residence in lib heads this week than the Orange Boogeyman.

[Munimula1]

So Trump is going to call this a national emergency? Didn’t he say it was a democratic hoax just last week?

[kingarthur65]

@conan

@Jezcoe

The people that the President put into place to handle such things are responsible for the logistics and by the transitive property of buck stopping… well that used to be the President.

Why didn’t CDC have per-approved labs all across the country on retainer to move at a moment notice?

What have we been paying em for?

Not enough bureaucrats. Sounds stupid but it’s true. The team that was in the NSC were let go in 2018 and the positions never filled again. There is no head in charge to pull together the different departments.

[SeaManatee]

Just the Democrats saying he wasn’t doing a good job was the hoax.

I’m sure his supporters understood the difference.

[WuWei]

@JayJay

@Ben_Natuf

why? 1000 people haven’t died yet. That’s the O’bamassiah standard isn’t it?

Let me know when you’re ready to have a grown up conversation.

Was 1,000 not the threshold then?

[Ben_Natuf]

it does exactly the opposite. it demonstrates how trump has taken action which will ultimately save American lives while O’biden sat and watched 17000 die

[WuWei]

@JimmyC

Can you find any contemporaneous reports where infectious disease experts were calling for Obama to implement travel restrictions?

In hindsight, should they have been?

[Ben_Natuf]

seemed to be. at least thats how long they waited.

[CanadianJudo]

Some dude on fox said this virus was created by North Korea

[CanadianJudo]

Obama fault

[WuWei]

@Ben_Natuf

17000 die

I believe that number is high. I saw a little over 12,000.

[CanadianJudo]

It wouls be pointless the virus started in Mexico and spread into america within days

[SixFoot]

@WuWei

@JayJay

@Ben_Natuf

why? 1000 people haven’t died yet. That’s the O’bamassiah standard isn’t it?

Let me know when you’re ready to have a grown up conversation.

Was 1,000 not the threshold then?

Yeah, but that was one thousan(D)

This was thi(R )ty.

[WuWei]

@CanadianJudo

Obama fault

Trump fault.

Analyst’s Cardinal Sin. Easy to criticize from the bleachers with one hand in the and the other pointing a finger.

[CanadianJudo]

Trump is the current president?
What does obama have to do with current events

[MoleUK]

Trump about to give a speech and Q&A session on the coronavirus:

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