Constitutional Capitalism V Democratic Socialism/Marxism

Yet here you are in a thread defending an OP with the baseless accusation that we want a social credit system

You don’t. Now a good time to denounce Facebook and twitter censorship.

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To be fair there are actual socialists on the left. However, the right here tends to believe anything less than Laissez-faire Capitalism = Socialism.

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Just because you don’t support laws restricting abortion, recreational drugs, or restroom access doesn’t mean others on the right don’t.

Yes, the left supports laws and regulations… that doesn’t mean they want a dictatorship and/or an an authoritarian government like North Korea.

Irony alert.

Socialism is a lot of things with numerous branches that don’t all agree with each other. In general socialism is about taking power from the capitalists and giving it to the workers.

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Oh totally… but folks like the OP think everyone on the left want socialism when the majority of the left in the US support a market based mixed economy combined with sensible regulations to protect the environment, workers, and consumers and a social safety net. This is evident by the fact that Biden got the nomination and not Sanders.

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I wish I could believe that. Except Bernie did have other lefties to deal with. I wonder what would have happened if the Dem primary was one on one Bernie vs Biden. I would like to think Biden would still have won, but I am not so sure.

I don’t think the other Democratic candidates were much of an issue. Ultimately in the primary Biden had 51.8%, Sanders has 26.3%, and in 3rd place was Warren with only 7.7% So even if it was just Biden and Bernie, it seems likely Biden still would have won.

I sometimes wonder if that was strategic: Bernie seemed to lose interest and run out of steam. Maybe he, they, somebody decided the agenda would be better served with Sanders remaining in the senate, and heading up the budget committee.

Collectivism.

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Even if some people use the word socialism to describe at least part of their economic or political philosophy, I don’t really believe they mean so in the strict sense of the term. Not everything in this country is privatized, nor should it be.

My concern is this: “All rapidly intensifying systems of production, whether they be socialist, capitalist, hydraulic, neolithic, or paleolithic, face a common dilemma.” And, “For the the past 500 years Western scientific technology has been competing against the most rapidly and relentlessly intensifying system of production in the history of our species.”

–Marvin Harris

The US Constitution has ■■■■ all to do with capitalism, or any other modern economic system. It was written by mercantilists to grudgingly protect corvee slavers so as to avoid fragmenting right away into statelets at the mercy of England and Spain.

And for ■■■■■ sake, Paine and Franklin, drawing from Locke, were proto-Georgists.

That’s actually a really good point.

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It’s a little different in China they are not on board with a lot of the left policies in the U.S. No sissy men,

eventually China will more less take over the world, the woke community will be in for a surprise on lack of social justice.

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The State doesn’t like K-pop.

It is also kind of funny to see free speech advocates pointing at this.

That’s quite a stretch.

Where do I begin? Nah, not worth it, too twisted thinking & too much projedction

You’re forgetting the ruling elites that control all aspects of the Collective and most importantly live by an entirely different set of “rules”.

Free speech that they agree with. Don’t forget some of those advocates were giddy over the unlawful detainment of protestors who were exercising their rights to speech and assembly by unmarked “officers” as well as rooting for the “counter protestors” who drove several miles to shoot at them.

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Capitalism is not a “modern economic system”.

The Constitution has quite a bit to do with it. Especially the Bill of Rights.