Without the southern states the US would not have the men, fuel, or food to have fought successfully any of the wars of the 20th century nor the clothing to send with them.
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Only if you ignore all of the other reasons for the war but then you always do.
It was a team effort. No one section of the country can take more than its fair share of the credit.
North south east west and everyone in between.
What does that have to do with renaming forts named after reb generals.
Allan
Oh please. Itâs was about slavery. At least be honest enough to admit that.
Allan
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Simply a matter of fact. Without the food, fuel, and fiber not to mention the millions of men from the south the US could not have even been competitive in any war during the last century.
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Aside from the men, those are all products of climate and geology of the land.
The confederate culture and heritage that sat on top of those resources and squandered them for 80 years is worthless.
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No, slavery was the pivot point but in the end it was the struggle between stateâs rights and the attempts to quash them.
Slavery was going to end, that was inevitable but forcing that change and circumventing the constitutional process for doing so in order to accelerate it caused a war.
That is a simple fact the modern democratic party has forgotten.
Our system allows for slow, gradual change and on constitutional issues only when there is overwhelming super majority support for same across the nation.
Circumvent that process and inevitably you will have a violent response.
The civil war cost us more lives than all our other wars combined and right now they are on the edge of pushing us into another one in the next decade.
Just a reminder that the Confederacy lasted shorter then the time that Ghostbuster cereal was produced. It was a failed state. Itâs ridiculous to name bases after the traitorous losers from that short lived, failed attempt.
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How many of them were ever even charged with treason?
Secession was not treason by any definition.
They were pathetic losers. RuPaulâs Drag Race has been on longer then the failed state of the Confederacy lasted.
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You of course failed to answer the question. Why is that?
Because it was a deflection of a failed state that lasted shorter then the Crash Test Dummy safety campaign.
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There is no deflection, you claim was factually false which is why you keep dodging the question.
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We are going to have to agree to disagree on whether the people who failed to leave the Union and killed many of our citizens are traitors. It is fine that you think they are not and it is fine that I think they are. Their failed state last shorter the New Coke was produced.
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How many were tried for treason? How many were even charged with it?
Itâs understandable that âformer confederates and sons of confederatesâ have to take credit for the natural resources under their feet just to deal with the embarrassment of a failed society they were after reconstruction.
We wouldnât have won the war without reserves of hydrocarbons in the south, and that is not an argument for Confederate namesakes on military bases.
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Our system allows for massive social change quickly.
See Brown v Board of education.
See Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier in baseball.
See same sex marriage.
See LGBT and trans discrimination.
See gays in the military.
See sports betting.
One day is illegal.
The next day it is not.
Allan
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Ah. With that stellar logic I guess Hitler was not guilty of crimes against humanity because he wasnât put on trial after his death. In what appears to be in your black and white world no trial equals innocence.
The great thing is you can believe what you believe and I can believe that the Confederacy and those who fought for it were traitors. Imagine being so bad at being a traitor that it lasted shorter then another failed idea, Prohibition.
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Shouldnât we be naming bases after people we admire? Heroes. Leaders of note.
Being a leader of a side that fought to maintain slavery doesnât fit that criteria imo.
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The South helped win the World Wars.
Therefore we should keep the names of the bases the same.
Thereâs âlogicâ for you.
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