Damn…forced me to like your post.
What is this world is coming too?
Damn…forced me to like your post.
What is this world is coming too?
Won’t stop a future President challenging it as a usurpation of his office.
First strike ability can be legislated.
I don’t know if it can.
There’s an argument that Congress could outlaw the use of nuclear weapons entirely - but it gets dicey if they try to legislate when they can be used.
I am totally ok with divvying that up a bit as long as possible response time isn’t negatively impacted.
I agree, the last few months of the last Presidency really put this in focus, if the President ever became unstable, what would stop them?
Jezcoe: TheDoctorIsIn:Probably unconstitutional.
Why would it be?
It would take legislation that the President signs.
The Cold War is over. Time for the Legislature to take back the power to destroy the planet.
Won’t stop a future President challenging it as a usurpation of his office.
What President would spend political capital saying “You know what we need again? A power to end civilization vested into one person. Who is with me?”
But the answer is getting rid of the senile old sock puppet, not taking away presidential power.
And yet his job approval numbers have not gone lower then 53.8%.
zantax: Jezcoe: TheDoctorIsIn:Probably unconstitutional.
Why would it be?
It would take legislation that the President signs.
The Cold War is over. Time for the Legislature to take back the power to destroy the planet.
Won’t stop a future President challenging it as a usurpation of his office.
What President would spend political capital saying “You know what we need again? A power to end civilization vested into one person. Who is with me?”
Pretty sure his argument would be about the constitution, not give me the nukes so I can blow stuff up.
Talk about conspiracies…
So it sounds like a “get permission first” law would be constitutional.
Jezcoe: zantax: Jezcoe: TheDoctorIsIn:Probably unconstitutional.
Why would it be?
It would take legislation that the President signs.
The Cold War is over. Time for the Legislature to take back the power to destroy the planet.
Won’t stop a future President challenging it as a usurpation of his office.
What President would spend political capital saying “You know what we need again? A power to end civilization vested into one person. Who is with me?”
Pretty sure his argument would be about the constitution, not give me the nukes so I can blow stuff up.
But that is the desire.
That is what the politics of it actually is.
zantax: Jezcoe: zantax: Jezcoe: TheDoctorIsIn:Probably unconstitutional.
Why would it be?
It would take legislation that the President signs.
The Cold War is over. Time for the Legislature to take back the power to destroy the planet.
Won’t stop a future President challenging it as a usurpation of his office.
What President would spend political capital saying “You know what we need again? A power to end civilization vested into one person. Who is with me?”
Pretty sure his argument would be about the constitution, not give me the nukes so I can blow stuff up.
But that is the desire.
That is what the politics of it actually is.
Not sure we will always have time for committee meeting before they need to be used. How much warning would we get?
And yikes, how did we ever allow this to happen?
from Launch on warning - Wikipedia
In 1997, the Clinton administration changed the official policy away from launch on warning to one of retaliation after withstanding an initial first strike.[6]
Jezcoe: zantax: Jezcoe: zantax: Jezcoe: TheDoctorIsIn:Probably unconstitutional.
Why would it be?
It would take legislation that the President signs.
The Cold War is over. Time for the Legislature to take back the power to destroy the planet.
Won’t stop a future President challenging it as a usurpation of his office.
What President would spend political capital saying “You know what we need again? A power to end civilization vested into one person. Who is with me?”
Pretty sure his argument would be about the constitution, not give me the nukes so I can blow stuff up.
But that is the desire.
That is what the politics of it actually is.
Not sure we will always have time for committee meeting before they need to be used. How much warning would we get?
And yikes, how did we ever allow this to happen?
from Launch on warning - Wikipedia
In 1997, the Clinton administration changed the official policy away from launch on warning to one of retaliation after withstanding an initial first strike.[6]
Here is where it is expected that I will defend the actions of a President I didn’t really like.
Here is where it is expected that I will defend the actions of a President I didn’t really like.
Actually, I was kind of hoping you would agree that voluntarily absorbing a first strike is insane.
Jezcoe:Here is where it is expected that I will defend the actions of a President I didn’t really like.
Actually, I was kind of hoping you would agree that voluntarily absorbing a first strike is insane.
To be honest… does it really matter at that point?
The world is over no matter what.
zantax: Jezcoe:Here is where it is expected that I will defend the actions of a President I didn’t really like.
Actually, I was kind of hoping you would agree that voluntarily absorbing a first strike is insane.
To be honest… does it really matter at that point?
The world is over no matter what.
Depends who launched it and how many they launched. But a first strike can impede your follow up.
Jezcoe: zantax: Jezcoe:Here is where it is expected that I will defend the actions of a President I didn’t really like.
Actually, I was kind of hoping you would no agree that voluntarily absorbing a first strike is insane.
To be honest… does it really matter at that point?
The world is over no matter what.
Depends who launched it and how many they launched. But a first strike can impede your follow up.
Not really.
We would blow up the world two times over instead of three times over.
zantax: Jezcoe: zantax: Jezcoe:Here is where it is expected that I will defend the actions of a President I didn’t really like.
Actually, I was kind of hoping you would no agree that voluntarily absorbing a first strike is insane.
To be honest… does it really matter at that point?
The world is over no matter what.
Depends who launched it and how many they launched. But a first strike can impede your follow up.
Not really.
We would blow up the world two times over instead of three times over.
You think the world is going to end if NK launches one nuclear missile at us?
You think the world is going to end if NK launches one nuclear missile at us?
If NK launches a nuke then NK would cease to exist very soon afterwards.
That would launch a chain of events that would cause a massive amount of death and destruction.
There are no backsies when it comes to using nukes.
zantax:You think the world is going to end if NK launches one nuclear missile at us?
If NK launches a nuke then NK would cease to exist very soon afterwards.
That would launch a chain of events that would cause a massive amount of death and destruction.
There are no backsies when it comes to using nukes.
I don’t think we would retaliate against that with a nuke, they could be amply reprimanded with conventional bombs. Don’t want to get fall out on another large nuclear power.
There’s nothing in the Constitution that gives him this power.
It was claimed as an “inherent power” out of necessity when the decision to deploy needed to be made in minutes.
Not sure if the constitutionality of the term “inherent power” was ever tested.