California state health insurance to cover sex changes for illegal immigrants

[Oryx]

@Nemesis

If individual states want to provide health care coverage for all residents who meet the criteria then isnt that up to them?

Sure, except. . .

California Subsidy | Covered California™

Gender-affirming care is not necessary medical treatment, in my opinion. If adults want to do it, that’s fine with me, but they should pay for it themselves.

[Gaius]

@Oryx

Gender-affirming care is not necessary medical treatment, in my opinion. If adults want to do it, that’s fine with me, but they should pay for it themselves.

@Nemesis

More importantly it shows that if we allow libs to run any government (including US Federal Gov’t) they will likely run amok enacting this and any other whack-job idea that enters their mind.

We have evidence that libs, left in charge become whacky extremists.
We have no evidence that libs, if in charge of, say, the federal gov’t would suddenly become reasonable.

[Guvnah]

@WorldWatcher

If they are here illegally, then they should be deported. Then it’s not a problem.

What am I missing?

You’re missing the fact that it’s Calif we’re talking about.

[Guvnah]

@Nemesis

The biggest cost to Californians is not going to be any type of gender reassignment surgery but the access that will be given to ER and diagnostic services. But thats not as “sexy” (in the journalist sense) as sex change surgery.

It really doesn’t matter what specifics are in play.

Calif is swimming in debt, and now this new initiative costs even more. From the OP:

@Gaius

Nearly 700,000 illegal immigrants between the ages of 26 and 49 qualify, as of Jan. 1, for these federal health care services, which will cost California taxpayers an estimated $3.1 billion. For those living in California illegally within this age range, it translates to approximately $4,058 per year in medical coverage subsidies funded by the state’s general fund.

[Guvnah]

@Oryx

Thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act, Californians now get more help paying for their plan from the federal government, and even more Californians qualify for these savings.

Ugh. So it’s not just make-your-own-bed-and-lie-in-it.

My federal taxes make me an unwilling occupant of that fleabag.

[Optrader]

On the bright side, every penisectomy done on an illegal prevents another Lib from being born …

Now THAT’S worth paying for, especially if Californians are the ones doing it.

[Nemesis]

@Guvnah

@Nemesis

The biggest cost to Californians is not going to be any type of gender reassignment surgery but the access that will be given to ER and diagnostic services. But thats not as “sexy” (in the journalist sense) as sex change surgery.

It really doesn’t matter what specifics are in play.

Calif is swimming in debt, and now this new initiative costs even more. From the OP:

@Gaius

Nearly 700,000 illegal immigrants between the ages of 26 and 49 qualify, as of Jan. 1, for these federal health care services, which will cost California taxpayers an estimated $3.1 billion. For those living in California illegally within this age range, it translates to approximately $4,058 per year in medical coverage subsidies funded by the state’s general fund.

Never said it was financially prudent. Californians will be able to have their say next time the Governor is up for election and other state representatives.

[gooddad409]

@Smyrna

…and the California government doesn’t need to wonder much why taxpayers are leaving. This is beyond stupid. It’s criminal!

The urgency to build a wall along the eastern border of California grows by the day.

[Guvnah]

@Nemesis

Never said it was financially prudent.

Didn’t say you did. I was reiterating MY point (which I previously made) about Calif’s fiscal woes, and their seemingly suicidal insistence on exacerbating it. Like I said, “It really doesn’t matter what specifics are in play.”

[Zippy]

@Smyrna

inmates diagnosed with gender dysphoria,”

I am curious. This “dysphoria” is a mental condition, is it not? A mental condition where a member of one sex believes they are a member of the other.

My question is why, in this mental condition, is the treatment to encourage the dysphoria rater that work to cure the dysphoria?

[Nemesis]

Gender Dysphoria is the distress and upset a person experiences due to the conflict of their own sense of gender vs their sex at birth.

Treatment is not always surgery or other body modifications but can include counseling and a range of other therapeutic treatments.

A lot of press is given to children having surgeries but According to studies conducted by Komodo Health in 2019-2021 just over 88,000 under 18 were diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria and between the years of 2019 through 2021, 832 under 18s had genital surgery and mastectomies. Though this is based on insurance claims so the number could be higher if individuals bypassed insurance.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/

Some could argue that one surgery is too many but surgeries on individuals of all ages is not at the vast levels that so many think.

My niece is transitioning but surgery is still some way off.

[Zippy]

@Nemesis

Treatment is not always surgery or other body modifications but can include counseling and a range of other therapeutic treatments.

But this all seems aimed towards the encouragement of the mental condition rather than towards correcting the mental condition. If someone has some other mental condition the focus is upon curing the condition, why is this mental condition treated differently?

[Guvnah]

@Nemesis

Gender Dysphoria is the distress and upset a person experiences due to the conflict of their own sense of gender vs their sex at birth.

Great. Treat the mental condition.

[Samm]

@Gaius

I can’t help it.
I feel like we have reached the end of something.

The only thing that can save us now, is California splitting off from the continent and sinking beneath the waves.

[Samm]

@Guvnah

@WorldWatcher

If they are here illegally, then they should be deported. Then it’s not a problem.

What am I missing?

You’re missing the fact that it’s Calif we’re talking about.

Yes, but as they say “so goes California, so goes the county.”

[Gaius]

@Samm

@Gaius

I can’t help it.
I feel like we have reached the end of something.

The only thing that can save us now, is California splitting off from the continent and sinking beneath the waves.

Certainly this shows us what happens when liberals win elections.
(I don’t think they suddenly become reasonable at the federal level.)

[Samm]

As I said in the previous post what happens in California today is what very likely will happen in the country in a decade or so. It’s been that way for the last 50-60 years or so. There us no reason to think that trend won’t continue. Be very aware; be very afraid.

[Gaius]

I certainly have not seen much condemnation of this policy by the left.

[Samm]

Of course not. It’s their plan for our future.

[Nemesis]

Honestly I have no problem if my state gave illegals access to health care and would have no problem in having my tax dollars used for this or having which would amount to a pretty insignificant tax hike for each individual per person.

Access to affordable healthcare and education are two areas I feel strongly about.

But I know YMMV.