Also, don’t tell anyone, but as long as someone has a shovel to dig under that wall, the wall is useless.
And that’s before you even get to 20th century technology like airplanes where you can fly right over the wall.
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Illegal immigration to Israel from Africa became a major problem beginning in 2007. Until then, approximately 2,700 illegal immigrants had entered Israel through the Egyptian border in the previous decades. Between the years 2007-2012, approximately 61,000 illegal immigrants entered Israel through the Egyptian border, the overwhelming majority coming from Eritrea and Sudan. The border fence was completed in December 2012 and the numbers of illegal immigrants dropped from 10,431 in 2012 to less than 150 in 2013. Furthermore, illegal immigrants entering between 2013-2016 were consistently lower than 150, only with a slight rise in 2015 to 232.
The correlation between these statistics and construction of the border fence indicate that the fence has successfully done the job. However, experts on the subject comment that the other Israeli actions were just as important.
Mexico isn’t firing rockets , it is exploiting immigrants.
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That 12th century technology seems to be working quite well in Israel.
The wall is to stop the average Joe and funnel them to a place of the border patrol’s choosing. What remains is very small in number and easily dealt with using technology.
But you don’t see any terrorists coming across the wall. And you won’t find rockets and mortars being fired from Mexico.
I have a better idea. Why not divert money being spent on illegal immigrants and divert it to American children in the Foster care system? Cause ya know, the children and all.
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You do not have to be a Trump supporter to support building a wall. The two are very much mutually exclusive.
As our budget has exploded year after year for “maintenance” of illegals and their children? Visit the ER and education system for “free repairs and upgrades” while Americans get their savings sucked away having to pay for it.
Screw them. We’re supposed to be taking care of the children of foreigners first because the rest of the world knows US kids are spoiled entitled rich little brats. Or something.
Bullets are cheaper. We’re still at war. Shoot a few of those “spies and saboteurs” caught coming across the border and it will cut down on the mass Exodus. Clearly giving them open arms and government benefits isn’t working.
Not to mention mandatory insurance to help pay for them because they don’t have it.
Stop it. We’re not at war. And shooting some kids, what could possibly go wrong. I know the point of the post and to look tough, but this ■■■■ is beyond the pale.
Afghanistan, Somalia, Pakistan. I never said anything about shooting kids.
I’m sure that’s what you meant. Who are you advocating shooting then?
Start with human traffickers. They could very well be part of a terrorist plot. And if not, we’ll just say they were. 
Nah I’d rather single children out by classification type and spend millions on bombs and military weaponry
This is a very interesting idea. It could possibly be done with the idea of Treasury Bonds being used as the “stocks” we purchase to fund the Wall’s construction. What I mean is, we the people, put up the money, the Feds issue us Bonds at say 6-10% return annually over an agreed upon maturity date (20 year, 10 year, 5 year, etc.) These payments could be made as you suggested from the known savings to the taxpayers. Then, more Bonds could be sold to fund the maintenance, staffing, overhead, etc.
My question is how do we go about this? Government contract? We set up the LLC, then contract with the Federal Government to build it, then the LLC maintains it? A portion of the money saved by not having the illegal issue could be set aside by the Feds to cover the maintenance, overhead, etc. But the problem with this would be expecting the Feds to manage the money properly, which is not a comforting thought given their track record on SS, medicare/Medicaid, etc.
My main concern is would we the people be allowed to do this, given it is Federal Government’s job to protect the border, not a “private security company”.
I definitely need to sit down and think about this angle. Thanks Smyrna!
Peace,
Jim
Hi DMK:
I agree wholeheartedly with you. I was just using the smaller “trump voter” number to show the low cost per person. But absolutely, the more people to chip in money, the lower cost per person. I did not mean to imply only Trump voters would chip in, that was just the numbers I had that were solid and workable.
Thanks!
Jim
Hi Wandering:
Your point is well taken, and it is my fault for not expounding further on the entire border security concept, which is obviously, multifaceted. The larger point with a wall is that it is a starting point to begin fixing this issue. Right now what the Feds are doing (or not doing) is not working, obviously. I would hope we could all agree on that.
The wall is not just ground up, it is also ground down (subterranean). Yes, tunnels can be dug, but how deep? Do we have technology that can sense changes in seismography that would indicate a tunnel is being attempted and pinpoint where it is? I don’t know these answers, I’m just a Physical Therapist. I have to believe there are Geologists, Engineers, Seismologists, etc. who could answer these questions with certainty and expertise; and, be able to address what such tech would cost if it is available.
We need drones, border patrol agents in turrets, video, thermal, etc. Maybe mine fields on the Mexico side of the wall? I don’t have all the answers.
As far as planes flying over…they have to land somewhere, right? So they land with military escort and are immediately imprisoned or sent back to their homeland. And then the plane is confiscated. And the ICE/Border Patrol could use the confiscated planes to send the illegals back, no expense to the US Taxpayers to buy the plane.
I’m not suggesting we just “do something”. That’s never a good approach. But the Wall is more than just “doing something”. It is a sound method to significantly minimize the number of illegals getting into the country. And, this inanimate object frees up the Border Patrol to concentrate their efforts on a more finite area of the border because the flow of illegals can be directed towards specific checkpoints along the wall.
Peace,
Jim
Hey ArmyCowboy:
I understand you’re trying to make a point with sarcasm. Yes, the wall would not stop rockets, mortars, kites, rocks, golf balls, grenades, etc. If those type of things started happening, would it not be an act of war against the U.S.? Then we would have the right to defend our sovereignty with force. Unlike the pickle Israel is in, being surrounded by non-friendly neighbors and being unable to unleash disproportionate retaliatory force against the Palestinians/terrorists; we only have the intruder country/terrorists/illegals and 2 bodies of water as “neighbors”. Canada would be thrilled if we had the Wall on the Mexican Border, so their neigh status is not relevant to this discussion. The point being, our military could retaliate with as much force as we deemed necessary to quell the violence coming over our border wall.
The problem needs solved. We cannot sustain the U.S.A. as the sovereign nation it was founded to be if we continue to allow illegal immigrants to invade our country. There is not enough money. Look at the issues in Europe. Germany in particular.
Thanks for your input.
Peace,
Jim
