So give me a ballpark here, fella. It sounds like you don’t have any particular politician you prefer.
IBC
65
Currently, no. I lean fairly libertarian. Ron Paulish without the crazy.
JimmyC
67
Guys, I’m really concerned about Trump. He seems to mess up words and slur his speech a lot.
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mispeaking vs outright lies
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Biden’s mind has slipped so far in the last few years he’s unfit for office. It has nothing to do with being good or bad.
My favorite from Trump:
“So the media likes to say we have the most cases, but we do, by far, the most testing. If we did very little testing, we wouldn’t have the most cases. So in a way, by doing all of this testing, we make ourselves look bad.”
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Speaking of lies… .
Cases and mortality by country
| COUNTRY |
CONFIRMED |
DEATHS |
CASE-FATALITY |
DEATHS/100K POP. |
| Yemen |
1,015 |
274 |
27.0% |
nan |
| Belgium |
60,898 |
9,722 |
16.0% |
85.12 |
| France |
197,885 |
29,734 |
15.0% |
44.39 |
| Italy |
239,410 |
34,644 |
14.5% |
57.33 |
| United Kingdom |
308,337 |
43,165 |
14.0% |
64.92 |
| Hungary |
4,114 |
576 |
14.0% |
5.90 |
| Mexico |
196,847 |
24,324 |
12.4% |
19.28 |
| Netherlands |
50,012 |
6,116 |
12.2% |
35.49 |
| Spain |
247,086 |
28,327 |
11.5% |
60.63 |
| Antigua and Barbuda |
26 |
3 |
11.5% |
3.12 |
| Bahamas |
104 |
11 |
10.6% |
nan |
| Chad |
860 |
74 |
8.6% |
0.48 |
| Sweden |
62,324 |
5,209 |
8.4% |
51.15 |
| Ecuador |
51,643 |
4,274 |
8.3% |
25.02 |
| Canada |
104,087 |
8,544 |
8.2% |
23.06 |
| Barbados |
97 |
7 |
7.2% |
2.44 |
| Slovenia |
1,541 |
109 |
7.1% |
5.27 |
| Algeria |
12,248 |
869 |
7.1% |
2.06 |
| Ireland |
25,396 |
1,726 |
6.8% |
35.56 |
| Trinidad and Tobago |
123 |
8 |
6.5% |
0.58 |
| Niger |
1,051 |
67 |
6.4% |
0.30 |
| Romania |
24,826 |
1,555 |
6.3% |
7.99 |
| Switzerland |
31,376 |
1,958 |
6.2% |
22.99 |
| Sudan |
8,889 |
548 |
6.2% |
1.31 |
| Andorra |
855 |
52 |
6.1% |
67.53 |
| San Marino |
698 |
42 |
6.0% |
124.32 |
| Burkina Faso |
919 |
53 |
5.8% |
0.27 |
| Greece |
3,310 |
190 |
5.7% |
1.77 |
| Guyana |
209 |
12 |
5.7% |
1.54 |
| Mali |
2,005 |
112 |
5.6% |
0.59 |
| China |
84,673 |
4,640 |
5.5% |
0.33 |
| Japan |
17,963 |
967 |
5.4% |
0.76 |
| Indonesia |
49,009 |
2,573 |
5.3% |
0.96 |
| US |
2,381,361 |
121,979 |
5.1% |
37.28 |
| Liberia |
662 |
34 |
5.1% |
0.71 |
| Angola |
197 |
10 |
5.1% |
0.03 |
| Bulgaria |
4,242 |
209 |
4.9% |
2.98 |
| North Macedonia |
5,445 |
259 |
4.8% |
12.43 |
| Iran |
212,501 |
9,996 |
4.7% |
12.22 |
| Denmark |
12,815 |
603 |
4.7% |
10.40 |
| Bosnia and Herzegovina |
3,676 |
173 |
4.7% |
5.20 |
| Germany |
192,871 |
8,928 |
4.6% |
10.77 |
| Finland |
7,167 |
327 |
4.6% |
5.93 |
| Brazil |
1,188,631 |
53,830 |
4.5% |
25.70 |
| Croatia |
2,388 |
107 |
4.5% |
2.62 |
| Poland |
32,821 |
1,396 |
4.3% |
3.68 |
| Lithuania |
1,804 |
78 |
4.3% |
2.80 |
| Tunisia |
1,160 |
50 |
4.3% |
0.43 |
| Guatemala |
14,819 |
601 |
4.1% |
3.48 |
| Egypt |
59,561 |
2,450 |
4.1% |
2.49 |
| Sierra Leone |
1,354 |
55 |
4.1% |
0.72 |
| Tanzania |
509 |
21 |
4.1% |
0.04 |
| Austria |
17,449 |
693 |
4.0% |
7.83 |
| Monaco |
102 |
4 |
3.9% |
10.34 |
| Portugal |
40,104 |
1,543 |
3.8% |
15.01 |
| Philippines |
32,295 |
1,204 |
3.7% |
1.13 |
| Cuba |
2,319 |
85 |
3.7% |
0.75 |
| Iraq |
36,702 |
1,330 |
3.6% |
3.46 |
| Estonia |
1,983 |
69 |
3.5% |
5.22 |
| Colombia |
73,760 |
2,524 |
3.4% |
5.08 |
| Nicaragua |
2,170 |
74 |
3.4% |
1.14 |
| Congo (Brazzaville) |
1,087 |
37 |
3.4% |
0.71 |
| Moldova |
15,078 |
495 |
3.3% |
13.96 |
| Mauritania |
3,519 |
116 |
3.3% |
2.63 |
| Peru |
264,689 |
8,586 |
3.2% |
26.84 |
| Bolivia |
27,487 |
876 |
3.2% |
7.72 |
| Czechia |
10,777 |
343 |
3.2% |
3.23 |
| Somalia |
2,835 |
90 |
3.2% |
0.60 |
| India |
473,105 |
14,894 |
3.1% |
1.10 |
| Syria |
231 |
7 |
3.0% |
nan |
| Honduras |
14,571 |
417 |
2.9% |
4.35 |
| Mauritius |
341 |
10 |
2.9% |
0.79 |
| Uruguay |
902 |
26 |
2.9% |
0.75 |
| Norway |
8,788 |
249 |
2.8% |
4.69 |
| Suriname |
357 |
10 |
2.8% |
1.74 |
| Luxembourg |
4,140 |
110 |
2.7% |
18.10 |
| Ukraine |
39,852 |
1,061 |
2.7% |
2.38 |
| Latvia |
1,111 |
30 |
2.7% |
1.56 |
| Libya |
670 |
18 |
2.7% |
0.27 |
| Turkey |
191,657 |
5,025 |
2.6% |
6.10 |
| Comoros |
265 |
7 |
2.6% |
0.84 |
| Cameroon |
12,592 |
313 |
2.5% |
1.24 |
| Nigeria |
22,020 |
542 |
2.5% |
0.28 |
| Kenya |
5,206 |
130 |
2.5% |
0.25 |
| Dominican Republic |
28,631 |
691 |
2.4% |
6.50 |
| Togo |
583 |
14 |
2.4% |
0.18 |
| El Salvador |
5,150 |
119 |
2.3% |
1.85 |
| Montenegro |
389 |
9 |
2.3% |
1.45 |
| Congo (Kinshasa) |
6,213 |
142 |
2.3% |
0.17 |
| Argentina |
49,851 |
1,116 |
2.2% |
2.51 |
| Afghanistan |
29,640 |
639 |
2.2% |
1.72 |
| Albania |
2,114 |
47 |
2.2% |
1.64 |
| Korea, South |
12,563 |
282 |
2.2% |
0.55 |
| Brunei |
141 |
3 |
2.1% |
0.70 |
| Panama |
28,030 |
547 |
2.0% |
13.10 |
| South Africa |
111,796 |
2,205 |
2.0% |
3.82 |
| Serbia |
13,235 |
263 |
2.0% |
3.77 |
| Pakistan |
192,970 |
3,903 |
2.0% |
1.84 |
| Morocco |
10,907 |
216 |
2.0% |
0.60 |
| Lebanon |
1,644 |
33 |
2.0% |
0.48 |
| Burma |
293 |
6 |
2.0% |
nan |
| Chile |
254,416 |
4,731 |
1.9% |
25.26 |
| Equatorial Guinea |
1,664 |
32 |
1.9% |
2.44 |
| Cyprus |
991 |
19 |
1.9% |
1.60 |
| South Sudan |
1,942 |
36 |
1.9% |
0.33 |
| Armenia |
21,717 |
386 |
1.8% |
13.08 |
| Sao Tome and Principe |
710 |
13 |
1.8% |
6.16 |
| Thailand |
3,158 |
58 |
1.8% |
0.08 |
| Diamond Princess |
712 |
13 |
1.8% |
nan |
| Kosovo |
2,169 |
37 |
1.7% |
2.01 |
| Haiti |
5,429 |
92 |
1.7% |
0.83 |
| Slovakia |
1,607 |
28 |
1.7% |
0.51 |
| Taiwan* |
446 |
7 |
1.6% |
0.03 |
| Senegal |
6,129 |
93 |
1.5% |
0.59 |
| Georgia |
914 |
14 |
1.5% |
0.38 |
| Jamaica |
678 |
10 |
1.5% |
0.34 |
| Ethiopia |
5,034 |
78 |
1.5% |
0.07 |
| Russia |
606,043 |
8,503 |
1.4% |
5.89 |
| Israel |
22,044 |
308 |
1.4% |
3.47 |
| Malta |
665 |
9 |
1.4% |
1.86 |
| New Zealand |
1,519 |
22 |
1.4% |
0.45 |
| Australia |
7,558 |
104 |
1.4% |
0.42 |
| Malaysia |
8,596 |
121 |
1.4% |
0.38 |
| Benin |
902 |
13 |
1.4% |
0.11 |
| Bangladesh |
122,660 |
1,582 |
1.3% |
0.98 |
| Azerbaijan |
14,305 |
174 |
1.2% |
1.75 |
| Guinea-Bissau |
1,556 |
19 |
1.2% |
1.01 |
| Central African Republic |
3,099 |
38 |
1.2% |
0.81 |
| Zambia |
1,489 |
18 |
1.2% |
0.10 |
| Malawi |
941 |
11 |
1.2% |
0.06 |
| Djibouti |
4,630 |
52 |
1.1% |
5.42 |
| Kyrgyzstan |
3,954 |
43 |
1.1% |
0.68 |
| Zimbabwe |
530 |
6 |
1.1% |
0.04 |
| Eswatini |
690 |
7 |
1.0% |
0.62 |
| Tajikistan |
5,630 |
52 |
0.9% |
0.57 |
| Paraguay |
1,528 |
13 |
0.9% |
0.19 |
| Venezuela |
4,366 |
38 |
0.9% |
0.13 |
| Madagascar |
1,787 |
16 |
0.9% |
0.06 |
| Kuwait |
41,879 |
337 |
0.8% |
8.15 |
| Saudi Arabia |
167,267 |
1,387 |
0.8% |
4.12 |
| Gabon |
4,956 |
39 |
0.8% |
1.84 |
| Cabo Verde |
999 |
8 |
0.8% |
1.47 |
| Jordan |
1,071 |
9 |
0.8% |
0.09 |
| United Arab Emirates |
46,133 |
307 |
0.7% |
3.19 |
| Kazakhstan |
19,285 |
136 |
0.7% |
0.74 |
| Cote d’Ivoire |
8,164 |
58 |
0.7% |
0.23 |
| Mozambique |
762 |
5 |
0.7% |
0.02 |
| Belarus |
59,945 |
362 |
0.6% |
3.82 |
| Ghana |
15,013 |
95 |
0.6% |
0.32 |
| Guinea |
5,174 |
29 |
0.6% |
0.23 |
| Iceland |
1,824 |
10 |
0.5% |
2.83 |
| Costa Rica |
2,515 |
12 |
0.5% |
0.24 |
| Sri Lanka |
2,001 |
11 |
0.5% |
0.05 |
| Oman |
33,536 |
142 |
0.4% |
2.94 |
| Maldives |
2,261 |
8 |
0.4% |
1.55 |
| Bahrain |
23,570 |
69 |
0.3% |
4.40 |
| Uzbekistan |
6,990 |
19 |
0.3% |
0.06 |
| Nepal |
10,728 |
24 |
0.2% |
0.09 |
| West Bank and Gaza |
1,328 |
3 |
0.2% |
0.07 |
| Qatar |
90,778 |
104 |
0.1% |
3.74 |
| Singapore |
42,623 |
26 |
0.1% |
0.46 |
Where’s the lie?
If not for the irresponsible acts of just three democratic governors our mortality rate would be half what it is currently.
It’s perfectly accurate because case counts are based on positive test counts in every country.
“When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases.”
Really, you want to defend that quote? Is it not the same as saying, if we didn’t test for cancer we would not have cancer cases?
You do not think that Trump thinks this way?
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It’s perfectly accurate. The case counts are based on total confirmed positive tests.
If an infected individual isn’t tested they aren’t part of the count.
Not that difficult to understand.
And IMHO this statement is not going to go down well with some voters.
It really doesn’t matter. When Trump takes down the WH and the Senate I will find it funny to watch all of his supporters flip and disavow Trump. Maybe your guy Cruz will be the first. Certainly Lindsey will. Unless he goes down too. This is going to be fun. And you can bookmark me here. I have always said this is a turnout election. And if the Democrat turnout is at the same level as the Obama elections, Trump is toast.
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It won’t play well with people who don’t understand the relationship between testing and positive cases.
JimmyC
78
Setting aside the fact that you are wrong about the percentage of deaths the top 3 states have contributed to our death rate, even if you did cut our death rate in half we’d still have a worse death rate than 90% of the 215 countries Worldometers tracks.
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Many if not most of which do not have our level of healthcare, access to clean water and sanitation, relatively low population density etc.
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Because if there’s one thing Republican voters demand, it’s solid deductive reasoning from their leaders.
How’s that? Nearly half our fatalities came from those three states.
The average across all of the countries listed is 6.8, the US is currently at 5.1.
Close enough for social media.
Look Fat. My record as Vice Governor shows that I own the black community. I’m just as tough on crime as that camel girl whatsherface. Black schools are just smart as poor schools. I’ll get all the AR-14s out to the inner cities. Anyone who says otherwise is a lyin’ dog faced pony soldier itchin’ for a fight. I’m waiting for ya in the alley, or behind the school Jack. Bring a bicycle chain. You know I am smarter than you. Full ride scholarship to vet school, top dog in my class. All that after 3 undergraduate degrees in 100 degree weather. Corn Pop couldn’t keep up but he did spring Ghandi and I from jail in South Los Angeles during apartheid. Get these roaches off my hairy toes. Where’s Jill’s fingers? Here’s a BFF friendhsip bracelet from that articulate smelling black O dude. You know the thing. Hot sauce.
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It isn’t republicans having trouble grasping the facts here.