JayJay
February 14, 2020, 7:31pm
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The standard norm has been for the DoJ to operate independently of the a President in these areas.
Presidents on both sides of the aisle have pretty much scrupulously kept to these norms.
But I get it “not technically illegal” is now an acceptable standard for Trump Conservatives.
JayJay
February 14, 2020, 7:36pm
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conan:
Maybe if you were more clear about things we would remember them.
People have no doubt about my positions, specially about Patriot act and dangers of abuse by our goverment.
Yes even to a point that people get sick of it, broken record syndrome.
I was clear.
The standard line on CEC radio post-9/11 was full-throated support for DHS and the Patriot Act. It was wartime, and we’ve always done extraordinary things in war.
conan
February 14, 2020, 7:38pm
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Yes…and?
It’s not terrorist act that scares me…it’s what our goverment does that scare more more.
It’s not mass shooter that scares me…it’s what libs would want to do afterwards that scare me more.
See a pattern here?
JayJay
February 14, 2020, 7:38pm
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And in these cases, hardly anyone was immediately released…they still had time to serve…just lesser time.
And the results of that program have been universally positive.
JayJay
February 14, 2020, 7:39pm
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That’s nice.
But I was responding to a poster who doubted what I said.
Not every conversation is about you.
JayJay
February 14, 2020, 7:41pm
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They weren’t even pardons, they were commutations.
That is within the President’s purview and not even close to the situation with Trump and Stone.
Now if he pardons Stone, I’ll still be critical of that but I won’t claim it’s a power Trump doesn’t have.
conan
February 14, 2020, 7:44pm
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Well I don’t remember either.
WuWei
February 14, 2020, 7:44pm
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JayJay:
They weren’t even pardons, they were commutations.
That is within the President’s purview and not even close to the situation with Trump and Stone.
Now if he pardons Stone, I’ll still be critical of that but I won’t claim it’s a power Trump doesn’t have.
Trump didn’t even commute.
JayJay
February 14, 2020, 7:46pm
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That’s your issue.
I watched/listened to a lot of conservative talk radio back in the day, living in NYC area for as long as I did, where there was a bloc of Rush, Sean, Levin and Savage all in a row.
WuWei
February 14, 2020, 7:46pm
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You’re right. Stone doesn’t have a gun charge.
Oh and
That’s exactly what he’s trying to do. He’ll be gone within a few days and be giving anti-Trump interviews.
JayJay
February 14, 2020, 7:47pm
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No goalposts have been moved.
Commutations and pardons are a President’s purview.
DougBH:
This is the unsupported part ^^. According to Barr, he responded to what he considered the over zealous recommendation of his attorneys, not to anything Trump said or did.
Should he throw Stone in jail for extra years, virtually a life sentence, because Trump can’t control his tweeting fingers?
No, Barr can do nothing to salvage his reputation with the hate everything Republican crowd no matter what he does, so there is no need to destroy an old man to try to do that.
And by the way…denying the direct testimony of Barr and replacing it with a totally imagined conspiracy theory from right out of the minds of the NYTs…with no evidence at all…NO.
I’ll believe what Barr says to self exonerate when you tell me you believe Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch’s account of their tarmac meeting.
Deal?
WuWei
February 14, 2020, 7:49pm
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So are tweets. You didn’t follow the conversation very well.
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WuWei:
Keep looking.
You are trying to waste my time. If you can’t back up your assertions, the conclusion to draw is obvious.
WuWei
February 14, 2020, 8:49pm
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I gave you two names. Admit you were wrong and go ahead and move along.
DougBH
February 14, 2020, 8:55pm
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I have no idea what Lynch and Clinton said, except that private personal meetings between the investigator and investigated are no more of a good idea than the President tweeting about an ongoing case.
Go with the conspiracy theory without evidence instead of the testimony, then. Both are equally possible except for, you know, one has evidence and the other has none.
DougBH:
I have no idea what Lynch and Clinton said, except that private personal meetings between the investigator and investigated are no more of a good idea than the President tweeting about an ongoing case.
Go with the conspiracy theory without evidence instead of the testimony, then. Both are equally possible except for, you know, one has evidence and the other has none.
No deal then. I suppose you believe in your conspiracy theories.
Pity.