Are we already living in a authoritarian state

[Ben_Natuf]

martial diplomacy

[Ben_Natuf]

@Jezcoe

The anger among the parents has been fueled by a falsehood that CRT is being taught in schools.

except of course, its not false.

@Jezcoe

covering your face holes helps to slow the spread of the disease

not with a cloth mask it doesn’t, and not much with a surgical mask. basically a useless endeavor designed to make you feel like you’re doing something to combat covid and the government is saving us all.

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

except of course, its not false.

Yes it is.

@Ben_Natuf

not with a cloth mask it doesn’t, and not much with a surgical mask. basically a useless endeavor designed to make you feel like you’re doing something to combat covid and the government is saving us all.

Yes it does. Covering your faceholes reduces how far your little bits of vaporized spit travels from your pig pen like bio aura. By reducing the velocity of one’s disgusting saliva droplets, one can reduce the spread.

This spread is reduced in varying degrees.

Just because something isn’t 100% doesn’t mean that it is worthless.

It is all about risk mitigation and wearing masks is a low cost method for a good return on risk reduction.

[Ben_Natuf]

lol… what a bunch of drivel.

one guy saying something that does not refute crt is being used in education does not refute anything. it does fit the denial narrative though

and please, the rest is ■■■■■■■■ theory proven wrong by scientific study.

cloth masks do nothing

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

lol… what a bunch of drivel.

one guy saying something that does not refute crt is being used in education does not refute anything. it does fit the denial narrative though

and please, the rest is ■■■■■■■■ theory proven wrong by scientific study

That is the dude who is responsible for you knowing about CRT in the first place.

Without him… you wouldn’t even be mad about it.

[Borgia_dude]

@Ben_Natuf

a pandemic thats never going away.

But the risk diminishes over time. It doesn’t make sense to pretend that we

1. Can’t travel without papers
2. Can’t leave the house
3. Must wear masks
4. Must have the vaccine
5. Can’t dine out without papers

None of this is true currently. Are we supposed to pretend it is? If it isn’t true currently, why would you think they will all be true in the near future as part of an authoritarian state? It doesn’t make any sense logically.

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

cloth masks do nothing

they do something. Not as well as other options but better than not covering at all.

[SixFoot]

@Zander

But have you actually complied with a single one of those directives, in whatever way or form it was “told” to you?

Dunno about you, but I don’t feel like complying with tyrants. Dangerous business, that.

[Ben_Natuf]

false assertion proven wrong by study

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

false assertion proven wrong by study

Effectiveness of Mask Wearing to Control Community Spread of SARS-CoV-2

Community mask wearing substantially reduces transmission of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in 2 ways. First, masks prevent infected persons from exposing others to SARS-CoV-2 by blocking exhalation of virus-containing droplets into the air (termed source control). This aspect of mask wearing is especially important because it is estimated that at least 50% or more of transmissions are from persons who never develop symptoms or those who are in the presymptomatic phase of COVID-19 illness.1 In recent laboratory experiments, multilayer cloth masks were more effective than single-layer masks, blocking as much as 50% to 70% of exhaled small droplets and particles.2,3 In some cases, cloth masks have performed similar to surgical or procedure masks for source control. Second, masks protect uninfected wearers. Masks form a barrier to large respiratory droplets that could land on exposed mucous membranes of the eye, nose, and mouth. Masks can also partially filter out small droplets and particles from inhaled air. Multiple layers of fabric and fabrics with higher thread counts improve filtration. However, the observed effectiveness of cloth masks to protect the wearer is lower than their effectiveness for source control,3 and the filtration capacity of cloth masks can be highly dependent on design, fit, and materials used. Standards for cloth masks are needed to help consumers select marketed products.

The prevalence of mask use in the community may be of greater importance than the type of mask worn

And this is the thing that bugs me the most about this whole pandemic.

Similar to the principle of herd immunity for vaccination, the greater the extent to which the intervention—mask wearing in this case—is adopted by the community, the larger the benefit to each individual member.

[Ben_Natuf]

nice opinion, but not a study. study proves the assertion wrong.

cloth masks are 0% effective
surgical masks 11%

science trumps opinion

[Camp]

Forget about media and social network censorship.

Let’s not even discuss the election meddling.

1. 3. and 4. are are not over yet for many states.

President puppet even had to tamper with the Rittenhouse jury yesterday with a lie about vigilante motives.

The authoritarian creep is currently real. It will roll back as the virus adapts to its lesser role and the hysterical among us can be talked back into civil society.

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

nice opinion, but not a study. study proves the assertion wrong.

cloth masks are 0% effective
surgical masks 11%

science trumps opinion

You can see in that JAMA link where they have a table of studies.

One of the major problems surrounding this entire pandemic is that the framing of the response has been about individual protection instead of community protection.

The more people who wear masks… no matter what the make… have an overall effect of reducing transmission. The risk for everyone is reduced.

But sadly we live in the world where there is a binary and not one where things exist on a curve.

[Ben_Natuf]

no it does not, and as before the cdc’s list of anecdotal references and retrospectives do not amount to a “study”. still relying on two hairdressers… its comical.

actual studies to test the hypothesis have proven it wrong. no matter how much the cdc tries to prop it up, its been proven wrong. how many times does a hypothesis have to be proven wrong to be false?

[biggestal99]

@thinkingman

forced to vax

No one is being forced to vax.

They are faced with a simple choice.

Vax or punishment.

It’s a choice one must make.

Allan

[biggestal99]

@biggestal99

No one is being forced to vax.

They are faced with a simple choice.

Vax or punishment.

It’s a choice one must make.

Allan

Mackenzie Blackwood number one goalie from the New Jersey Devils hockey team. He reported to training camp in September unvaxxed. If he remained unvaxxed. He would be subject to league rules regarding the unvaxxed and miss the Canada away games.

He had a choice to make.

Without looking guess which choice he made?

Allan

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

no it does not, and as before the cdc’s list of anecdotal references and retrospectives do not amount to a “study”. still relying on two hairdressers… its comical.

actual studies to test the hypothesis have proven it wrong. no matter how much the cdc tries to prop it up, its been proven wrong. how many times does a hypothesis have to be proven wrong to be false?

A physical barrier over your faceholes reduces transmission.

Not 100%… but better than nothing. This whole idea that it is useless is just false.

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118#sec-22

Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use as source control to reduce community transmission: Nonmedical masks use materials that obstruct particles of the necessary size; people are most infectious in the initial period postinfection, where it is common to have few or no symptoms (45, 46, 141); nonmedical masks have been effective in reducing transmission of respiratory viruses; and places and time periods where mask usage is required or widespread have shown substantially lower community transmission.

[Camp]

Not really. A 10 % delay in transmission at best.

Fauci initial response was the correct one.

[Jezcoe]

@Camp

Not really. A 10 % delay in transmission at best.

Better than zero.

And at little cost.

[Camp]

@Jezcoe

A physical barrier over your faceholes reduces transmission.

Not 100%… but better than nothing. This whole idea that it is useless is just false.

The whole idea that masks can be effective is also false.

Better than nothing is not a selling point. We have plenty of data showing the futility including NFL players.