Indeed. Or any other school.
@TheDoctorIsIn in your society is there some kind of internship requirement for lawyers or can you just hang a shingle as soon as you pass the bar?
There is no written internship requirement. A newly barred lawyer is technically as much of a lawyer as a senior partner of a BigLaw firm.
But it certainly matters in terms of what you can charge.
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Thanks.
Never said that. My problem is with the current antiquated cookie cutter approach that takes way too long (including high school) costs too much and offers little in the way of practical value for many of its customers.
If…a student doesn’t pay, 1/2 of the debt should be charged back to the institution that rec’d the funds. IOW…they are co-signers and this is reality. Prepare them to succeed or share in the failure.
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Ocasio-Castro-Chavez graduated in 2011 “cum laude” from Boston U with a BA in “international relations” and economics. Her college experience in my opinion was nothing more than an indoctrination into socialism and communism. Well there was that opportunity to make a rooftop music video.
Other than opening beer cans, pulling a beer tap or mixing gin and tonics, if her accolades and life experience are a prerequisite to being eligible to run for Congress? Sorry, plumbers, welders carpenters and bricklayers belong in Congress too and probably not a bad idea at that.
Perhaps her economics education helped launch the popular “tax the rich” clothing line?
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Well most trades (used to) have apprenticeship, journeyman and masters training, testing and licensing programs.
Can’t certify a weld if you don’t have the paper.
What Congress should do is to make all universities be the ones to co-sign all student loans. Force them to have skin in the game.
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A college degree is a stepping stone. It is a get your foot in the door. At least that is what it has become since I left college in the 80s. No one comes out proficient at anything. They have a bit of knowledge on a lot of things.
I started as a business major, excelled at business law…but that was it. Didn’t want to be a lawyer. I changed my major to psychology…I could do a lot of things off of that and have. I minored in education, and speech pathology…they were things that interested me. I took a meteorology class which is by far the thing I remember the most of outside of my major. Had to take three religion courses…oh boy. Took some math, and computer science classes…all duds.
Got out of college and got a job and realized I was a good leader. Got a Master’s Degree in Public Health. Every class I took there has served me well overall for the past 25 years. But my four years of undergrad…The only classes that I really remember much of were my statistics classes and some of my neurological psych classes.
Other than that…I would agree…college education doesn’t mean what it used to mean. Take it for what it is. A foot in the door of most job interviews you go on.
As a former educator that is by no means how most people look at it. The idea of spending tens of thousands of dollars just to learn something that you could learn for free on the internet is economically irresponsible and ignorant unless one has money to burn that is.
The degree I am working towards is not"snake oil".
In fact, manufacturing businesses are screaming for people with the degree I hope to earn. It is a brand new degree track for Ohio State.
Bachelor of Science, Engineering Technology
What would that be?
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Billy Joe and the rest of Green Day attended my high school (20 years after me). They dropped out before graduation after becoming rich and famous.
They’ve done ok.
The point I am making with such examples is that sitting in classrooms and “listening” (I use the word listening very lightly since much daydreaming is going on as well) to lectures does not make a person who they are or what they want to be or what they desire to accomplish.
Regarding the point of my thread I can say unequivocally as a former high school teacher that for most students much of their time in high school is a waste of time. For many students high school is nothing but a holding pattern that they get nothing out of.
I’m not advocating abolishing higher education but reforming it so that it doesn’t take so long, which is consequently one of the reasons it costs too much.
Another venue that’s providing income today along with creating millionaires is You Tube.
Should America have to bail out students like you who are going to school who are just getting a degrees with no job prospects in mind?
How do you define “worth it?” Is it worth it to spend $100,000 on a degree, which also costs one an additional 4 years of earning money, to get a job as a waiter, Uber driver, cashier, etc?
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I would exclude the STEM degrees in my criticism as many who go that route do get good paying jobs. The one caveat would be most of the general ed course requirements, which add little to nothing to a person’s professional development.
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