Anyone watch the "Leaving Neverland" documentary?

#21

Weird how so many rock stars got away with child molestation and other sex crimes beyond Michael Jackson.

Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin) basically kidnapped and held a 15 yr old girl hostage for the better part of the year while using her as his sex toy. Never charged.

Pete Townshend (The Who) got busted downloading child porn but got away with it because he claimed he was just researching it to find out how big a problem it was.

R Kelly recently got charged but for the last 20 years or so everyone has known about his underage child sex exploits and no one did anything.

Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 yr old cousin.

Fame and money allows you to get away with a lot.

Many more.

#22

Lewis’ marriage to his cousin was legal, but it ruined his career.

#23

Starting with Roger, he’s anti-everything when he needs to be. He plays the contrarian to up his rock image. He’s a bit of a poser, actually. I saw him in concert on his last tour, where he spent a considerable amount of time railing on Trump. A bit of delicious irony was him, an egotistical, rich, whiny doofus whining about an egotistical, rich, whiny doofus. As far as a lyricist, he’s okay, he has his moments. But he doesn’t hold a candle to someone like Neil Peart.

And regarding Jackson, it’s hard to believe that he wasn’t guilty. I was always in the minority in terms of liking him as an artist. I never cared for his music. Too pop for me. Even the guitar work of folks like Eddie Van Halen, Jennifer Batten, Slash and Orithani couldn’t save it for me.

#24

There was a man in the U.K. named Jimmy Savile, he was a DJ worked for the BBC raised around 40 million pounds towards charities, mainly children hospitals before he died. He was in big even with royalty and politicians there. He was never even tried and from what I was read it was estimated to have abused over 100 children.

#25

Townshend didn’t get busted for DL’ing porn, only accessing the site.

#26

Yes, true. Savile was a very very prominent UK DJ in the ‘60s. He knew all the big UK stars, including the Beatles. That’s Savile in the clip below introducing the Rolling Stones at the 1964 New Musical Express Pollwinners concert. (The Stones’ performances is wonderful, fyi.)

#27

Ya that’s him. The first accusation was in 1963 he managed to escape charges until after he died in 2011 in which investigations were launched a year later.

By October 2012, police were pursuing 400 lines of inquiry based on testimony from 200 witnesses via 14 police forces across the UK. They described the alleged abuse as “on an unprecedented scale”, and the number of potential victims as “staggering”. Investigations, codenamed Operation Yewtree were opened to identify criminal conduct related to Savile’s activities by the Metropolitan Police, and to review the 2009 decision by the Crown Prosecution Service to drop a prosecution as “unlikely to succeed.” By 25 October, police reported the number of possible victims was approaching 300.

On 12 November 2012, the Metropolitan Police announced the scale of sexual allegations reported against Savile was “unprecedented” in Britain: a total of 450 alleged victims had contacted the police in the ten weeks since the investigation was launched. Officers recorded 199 crimes in 17 police force areas in which Savile was a suspect, among them 31 allegations of rape in seven force areas. Analysis of the report showed 82% of those who came forward to report abuse were female and 80% were children or young people at the time of the incidents.Hospital staff members claimed that Savile had told them that he engaged in necrophiliac acts with corpses in their mortuary in Leeds; Savile was friends with the chief mortician, who gave him near-unrestricted access

#28

I don’t remember hearing that last thing (ugh!), but there is footage of him with a young girl on his lap and the girl having a funny look. You can guess the rest. He was a real creep. He was knighted before his death, also. There was a huge scandal after his death on how he was sheltered from discovery. Very ugly.

Some links below for a little history. (Warning: Some of the material in the first two links describes his sexual offenses, so a word to those who might be offended.)



#29

Sad this guy was able just to walk around and keep doing these things for decades after the first allegation. I guess it’s all who you know as well as fame and ton of cash.

#30

Michael Jackson was sick.

Just like the Clintons, it is an example that if you’re a Democrat in this country
their is a two tier justice system.

Clinton’s get away with **** and murder, and Jackson got away with
**** of little boys.

#32

If Michael were alive today then maybe Jussie Smollett, and Michael Jackson could have teamed up.

Then the King of Pop could have just blamed MAGA hat wearers for losing his Never Never Ranch that way then. lol.

#33

I think everything just blew up at once, you have the fact a lot of us have felt that he was always guilty of sleeping with young boys, and this documentary happened to come out at the time of the metoo movement. It was the perfect storm.

#34

Any grown man sleeping with a little boy is just very immoral and disturbing.

Anyone with common sense, knows that he did more than just “sleep” next to them.

Why that thing(Michael Jackson) wasn’t in prison shortly after all this came out,
simply shows how corrupt Democrat Politicians are.

#35

We just watched “Abducted in Plain Sight”, a documentary about a man who becomes obsessed with young girl, the child of his next door neighbor, how he befriended the parents, essentially seducing them, and then his methods of creating division between the girl and her family. There were elements of it that reminded me of what Jackson was alleged to have done.

#37

I always knew Barbara Streisand was a bit loony, but in an interview with the Time of London she said about Michael Jackson and the victims.

“His sexual needs were his sexual needs, coming from whatever childhood he has or whatever DNA he has," Streisand told The Times “You can say ‘molested,’ but those children, as you heard say [grown-up Robson and Safechuck], they were thrilled to be there. They both married and they both have children, so it didn’t kill them.”

#38

I cant bring myself to watch it, as a kid growing up I loved his music but as I got older he got weirder and well now he is dead.

#39

I watched the movie. Both of the men definitely seemed to struggle in their later lives because of the abuse.

#40

Ya it’s really odd timing, most of us loved his work very talented. I think in the back of our minds we felt he was guilty. The whole little kid thing sleeping in the bed it’s just so hard to spin that.

#41

Even if he didn’t share a bed with young boys, the man’s two best friends were eleven year old Macaulay Culkin and Elizabeth Taylor.

#42

Watched the first half last night, will likely hold off before watching the second half. I’ve no direct experience with sexual abuse and while I like some of MJ’s music, I was never a big fan.

That said? The documentary is difficult to watch.