Huh?
“An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that “breakthrough” infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 107,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 1.1%.”
My “girlfriends”? What on earth are you going on about?
And those patients didn’t catch that from a vaccinated person, they would have had to have been exposed to a significant viral load to get that ill. And that means they were exposed to an unvaccinated Delta patient in all likelihood.
This isn’t 100%. This is 95%. 3-5% of hospitalized COVID patients have been vaccinated. Usually they are over the age of 60 or have pre-existing medical conditions, such as having a compromised immune system.
And that is the continued point I make, the unvaccinated do not just risk their own health but everyone, including the vaccinated people around them. It is selfish and pointless.
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Its so weird what some folks are holding onto just to not get vaccinated
Seriously its some sort of Lost Cause- “if the libs are for it Im agin it” kind of thing at this point. Even at the cost of risking their own deaths. Weird.
You have to step back and think in terms of populations, not the individual.
To use your phrase: “I thought you were smarter than that.”
It is very true to say that an individual can be a “carrier” and pass it to another individual. However that is very different then looking at populations with (a) low vaccination rates and no herd immunity to (b) a highly vaccinated population rate with herd immunity which makes a single individual “carrier” less impactful.
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Yeah right. It’s funny. Its more important to you libs that the idea of being vaccinated vs unvaccinated label sticks than to just simply say yes the virus still transmits regardless.
So I was treating a patient and their family was their bedside. We started talking about covid. Both of them had covid earlier. The wife didn’t develop antibodies. Her husband did. Their doc tells the wife to get the vaccine. Her husband on the other hand has antibodies. He says not to get the vaccine. He is testing him regularly for antibodies. My point to this story. My thought is their doctor seems to operate in legit concern for his patients. No political nonsense about vaxxer vs antivaxxer. I wonder how the rest of you could be so different and make it so political.
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No here is the main problem in covid. Whaf is being talked among hospitals is the opportunity of covid mutating. Some forms of mutation are worse than others. Just like flu.
I know before covid was a thing we were hit very hard with the flu.
I am not making a case for or against vaccination. For me its not about proving or disproving vaccination. If a person feels they should get vaccinated by all means I won’t shame you for your decision. I just wish those same sentiments could be given back.
There is nothing political about vaccinating, other than the fact that it seems a lot of folks on the Right aren’t getting theirs.
For whatever bizarre reason, like thinking it magnetizes the skin or that it has microchips in them.
Both of them should have gotten the vaccine, by the way.
According to the FDA:
Test results from currently authorized SARS-CoV-2 antibody tests should not be used to evaluate a person’s level of immunity or protection from COVID-19. If the results of the antibody test are interpreted as an indication of a specific level of immunity or protection from SARS-CoV-2 infection, there is a potential risk that people may take fewer precautions against SARS-CoV-2 exposure. Taking fewer precautions against SARS-CoV-2 exposure can increase their risk of infection and may result in increased spread of SARS-CoV-2.
lol wut
The viral load is considerably less in vaccinated people, making it considerably less likely to spread.
Help me out here. If the vaccinated can get Covid and transmit it, are we facing a future where Covid is always among us and we need to keep vaccinating everyone (new and boosters)? Does herd immunity mean anything in this scenario?
Ah, did not know that. Thanks.
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Neither are minorities.
30% of migrants refuse the vaccine and are still being dropped into communities.
So, it really isn’t as much of a republican thing as you’d like to make it out to be.
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I think @SottoVoce made a good statement towards this earlier in this thread.
IMHO, and I don’t claim to be a biologist. But it would seem logical that mutations are a function of population size. The larger the population, the more likelihood that a mutation will occur and survive to be passed on. The population I’m talking about isn’t the human population, but the population of the virus in terms of replication.
So let’s say we get 1 survivable mutation out of 1,000,000,000 replications. Just to pick numbers.
So which has more chance of producing a mutation: 1,000,000,000 instances of the virus 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 instances of the virus?
Vaccination means there are fewer instances of infected people in the human population with billions of virus particles in their system. The concept of herd immunity means it it more difficult to spread the virus and with few cases of the virus less likely that a mutated virus will survive to be passed into the herd.
Because we did (a) a ■■■■■■ job of controlling the virus and (b) have not achieved a high level of vaccination. Ya, probably we will see this around for quite awhile.
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Yep, found it as I read on. Thanks.
You brought up politics, I addressed that. As I have consistently said, the two populations that are fighting herd immunity are rural whites and urban blacks.
Tsk, tsk.
The answer to your question is contained in the definition of “minorities”
Pretty self explanatory. 
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