Angry Grandpa to have a hate speech group perform at his inauguration

[WuWei]

authoritarian
ultranationalism
dictatorial power
forcible suppression of opposition
strong regimentation of society and of the economy

Libertarianism
Globalism
Check and balance democracy
Freedom of expression
Individualism

I would offer that the opposite of fascism, whether left or right, is:

Liberalism

[Rodeo]

@DougBH

Nope. Twitter and Facebook say they are not a problem.

Twitter and Facebook are now playing a major role in running the country now so…

It’s all good!

[fallenturtle]

@altair1013

@fallenturtle

Are you saying your fellow honored guests who have called liberals fascist are guilty of hate speech?

Good question. I would prefer neither side use the term.

Me too.

[altair1013]

@fallenturtle

I just don’t understand why a supporter of an angry grandfather would call a less angry grandfather an angry grandpa.

Again. Nobody cares what you do or don’t understand. It’s nowhere on the list of priorities.

[altair1013]

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@altair1013

@fallenturtle

Are you saying your fellow honored guests who have called liberals fascist are guilty of hate speech?
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Good question. I would prefer neither side use the term.

Me too.

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[wiley8425]

Self governing versus one ruler was my take on it. Representatives or the people ruling instead of a monarch/dictator.

[wiley8425]

Oh so you weren’t talking about the OP at all. Got it.

[fallenturtle]

They aren’t opposites, they were just in opposition back in the early 20th century. And of course the irony being that in the end both Stalin and Hitler ruled over totalitarian states.

[wiley8425]

What does that have to do with a President who thinks he can do whatever he wants while in office (despite laws or the will of the people he’s supposed to be serving) versus a President who is in office to serve the people (all of them, not just his supporters)? If you don’t know, I’m not sure I can explain it to you.

[WuWei]

@wiley8425

Self governing versus one ruler was my take on it. Representatives or the people ruling instead of a monarch/dictator.

If that is the case, how was Trump fascist?

Does a fascist government have to be a dictatorship or can it be oligarchal?

[WuWei]

@wiley8425

What does that have to do with a President who thinks he can do whatever he wants while in office (despite laws or the will of the people he’s supposed to be serving) versus a President who is in office to serve the people (all of them, not just his supporters)? If you don’t know, I’m not sure I can explain it to you.

Did he? Was he a fascist?

[wiley8425]

Did he not? Did you pay attention to anything he said over the last four years?

If he had gotten his way, he very well could have been.

[WuWei]

@wiley8425

Did he not? Did you pay attention to anything he said over the last four years?

Sure. Was he a fascist?

Did he do more fascism than other Presidents?

[fallenturtle]

@altair1013

@WuWei

Is this a fair definition of fascism?

Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy

Yes. Most of the principles of communism and fascism line up. Not much difference between the way Stalin ruled and the way Hitler ruled.

Which principles line up? Stalin didn’t do communism, he ruled more like a fascist, which is why there are many parallels between Stalin’s USSR and Hitler’s Germany… they were basically both totalitarian.

[wiley8425]

Seems pretty fascist leaning to me. That’s subjective though. Obama certainly worked around Congress as well. I guess it boils down to who was doing what they did in order to help others instead of themselves?

[fallenturtle]

@altair1013

@fallenturtle

I just don’t understand why a supporter of an angry grandfather would call a less angry grandfather an angry grandpa.

Again. Nobody cares what you do or don’t understand. It’s nowhere on the list of priorities.

You care enough to reply.

[altair1013]

@fallenturtle

They aren’t opposites, they were just in opposition back in the early 20th century. And of course the irony being that in the end both Stalin and Hitler ruled over totalitarian states.

Economic activity must be totally controlled and approved by the government.
Mandatory service to the state
Single party Rule.
Government control of the press.
Severe speech restrictions.
Unlimited search and seizure.

Which of these is communism and which is fascism?

[Smyrna]

@wiley8425

Oh so you weren’t talking about the OP at all. Got it.

…as Buddy sings, that’ll be the day.

[WuWei]

strong regimentation of society and of the economy

[fallenturtle]

@altair1013

@fallenturtle

They aren’t opposites, they were just in opposition back in the early 20th century. And of course the irony being that in the end both Stalin and Hitler ruled over totalitarian states.

Economic activity must be totally controlled and approved by the government.
Mandatory service to the state
Single party Rule.
Government control of the press.
Severe speech restrictions.
Unlimited search and seizure.

Which of these is communism and which is fascism?

None of those are communism. All are fascism.

Remember under communism there is no state.