Airliner and Blackhawk collide mid air. Breaking

trump is making this all about trump. Just like he always does. Thought that’s what you all looooved about him

Oh really?

Is he on this very thread blathering endlessly about how “bad” Trump is?

Nah, just look at this thread and you can see who’s doing all the sniveling.

Yeah … She’s right up there with Lance Armstrong and Jose Canseco in the memories of disappointed fans. But still way down from OJ Simpson. :wink:

And you are catering to his manic desire for attention. Just like you always do.

No. this is not it. What I like about Trump is that he irritates all the right people. And apparently, you are one of those people. :stuck_out_tongue:

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After all this time they still don’t get him.

He plays them like a violin and the best part is that they actually believe they are the ones coming out on top.

Very entertaining to watch.

It still wasn’t the time or place.

Having said that, lack tact is part of the Trump package, and that’s not going to change.

Oh i know that’s what you all like about trump. Weird way to live and a really odd place to get your jollies, but, you do you MAGA.

I have been critical of that aspect of Trump’s persona since he entered politics in 2015. I thought it was his Achilles heel. I was wrong, but it no longer bothers me. As they often said about Biden throughout his career … That’s just Trump being Trump.

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I told you what I like about him. Don’t try to make it into something else.

They weren’t conned brother. They knew exactly what they were doing.

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You must be really fun at parties.

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While everyone else thrashes about on the ground about Trump and DEI I will get back to the accident.

It is now being reported that the controller handling the helo was also providing landing instructions to airliners. Apparently there are supposed to be separate controllers for these tasks. It is also being reported that the tower is supposed to have 30 personnel and only has 19.ATCs assigned.

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Freakin’ Trump!

I heard this AM a black hawk pilot say the thing that haunts him after watching the video is, why did the black hawk not change altitude or direction? IOW, were they not looking out the window and just blinding following the vector given them?

Awful.

RIP.

Have you met Sammy?

There are a lot of questions that we won’t get answers to with both flight crews lost.

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It does seem that a lot of good information is already available. What I’ve seen combined with what you mention seems to point to a cascade of human errors. Time will tell of there are solutions.

God rest their souls.

Read the article from the expert who talks about challenges of flying in a crowded airspace at night with night vision goggles.

From the article:

“And people find that hard to believe, but this giant aircraft at night is just two more lights added to all the other lights in the D.C. area,” he said.

Cardoso said that when he flew military helicopters at night in urban settings, he tended to take off his night vision goggles “because they washed out so much cultural lighting and became almost useless.”

I think that’s actually the guy I heard this AM.

Were they training with night vision goggles?

We don’t even know if they were wearing them. All we know is the helicopter didn’t swerve to miss. That tells me they didn’t see the plane in the dead of night.

Eventually this will all come out.