ABC (Dec 13): Amazon workers authorize strike at company's first-ever unionized warehouse

Thousands of Amazon workers at the company’s first-ever unionized warehouse voted to authorize a strike on Friday, claiming the tech giant has refused to recognize the union and negotiate a contract at the New York City facility. . . .

“Amazon is pushing its workers closer to the picket line by failing to show them the respect they have earned,” Teamsters President Sean O’Brien told ABC News in a statement. “If these white-collar criminals want to keep breaking the law, they better get ready for a fight.” . . .

Actually, this may be a Trump-related thing.
(go figure)

Amazon filed a lawsuit alleging the election creating the union was invalid. They lost but have appealed and currently the appeal is pending.

Perhaps an incoming Trump administration would side with Amazon and against the union?

The article continues

After the union victory, however, Amazon filed objections with the National Labor Relations Board, or NLRB, seeking to overturn the outcome, including allegations that NLRB officials showed a favorable bias toward the workers and that union leaders bribed colleagues in an effort to win their support.

So far, those legal challenges by Amazon have failed to overturn the union win. Months after the victory, a hearing officer for the NLRB recommended that the vote should stand. Soon afterward, the NLRB officially certified the union representing workers at the facility, putting Amazon under a legal obligation to bargain in good faith. Amazon appealed the ruling.

Workers have alleged that the company’s legal challenge amounts to an illegal effort to delay contract negotiations. . . .

Always in the same places.

Well, trucking isn’t doing so well right now

Normally that would mean the unions will soften their stance.
But it seems that the issue here is really about getting Amazon to recognize the union now before an incoming Trump administration.

I don’t have a way to divide the chart below by CPI, but I have done that enough to know that it shows (in real terms), Amazon’s sales of “stuff” is looking pretty bad.
(Bad economy? Competition from Temu??)

In 2022?

Oh you mean the strike?

The workers voted to form a union is 2022 but
Amazon appealed the ruling. . .
Amazon appealed the ruling. . .

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Amazon filed a lawsuit alleging the election creating the union was invalid. They lost but have appealed and currently the appeal is pending.

From the article:

After the union victory, however, Amazon filed objections with the National Labor Relations Board, or NLRB, seeking to overturn the outcome, including allegations that NLRB officials showed a favorable bias toward the workers and that union leaders bribed colleagues in an effort to win their support.

So far, those legal challenges by Amazon have failed to overturn the union win. Months after the victory, a hearing officer for the NLRB recommended that the vote should stand. Soon afterward, the NLRB officially certified the union representing workers at the facility, putting Amazon under a legal obligation to bargain in good faith. Amazon appealed the ruling. . .

Yeah they appealed it in 2022

But anyway. Trump admin you say?

President-elect Trump lent his support on Thursday to the International Longshoremen’s Association, which represents dockworkers on the East and Gulf Coasts. Contract negotiations between the union and employers have broken down over the use of port machinery that can move cargo without human involvement. The I.L.A. opposes it, believing it reduces jobs, but the employers, mainly large shipping companies, have said that the equipment moves goods more cheaply and efficiently.

:thinking:

Yes I wrote. “Actually, this may be a Trump-related thing.”

I’m guessing that Turmp’s NLRB might rule differently than Biden’s would.

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Wasn’t correcting ya. Just adding more info

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I’ve no problem with workers forming a union IF there are no laws governing the company firing the union.

The risk/reward is what keeps both parties in check. The expense of having to retrain a new workforce is what incentivizes businesses to negotiate. But that’s also what makes unions not ask for too much.

Right now unions have too many protections.

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I’m sure plenty of communities in right to work states would love having an Amazon warehouse open near them

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We do. I work at one.

Imagine that for the past few years we’ve had a WH and Fed who

  • drive prices especially housing prices up
  • suppress wages by flooding the labor market with 15 million+
    illegals.

I don’t know the particulars of Staten Island and Amazon, but it is easy to imagine wages have not kept pace with Bidenomic prices.

As long as my frequent Amazon purchases aren’t delayed, I don’t care what happens.

"They say, a large portion of the Haitian immigrants in the area are working warehouse positions at companies like Amazon, McGregor Metalworks, and Topre America.

Dorsainvil continued, “Those employers are looking for workers. Many have come and they understand that they can get a job with them very quickly.”"

More than one way to break a union. And wage rates.

Indeed. People do not need a living wage to survive…just work 2 jobs!

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Whether they work for for amazon or not, labor is fungible. Add enough workers to the workforce and wages go down, Supply and demand works always and everywhere.

Or learn to code. (wink)

I am not opposed to this at all.
I would advise them to use caution though.

Does the wage growth bear this out?

Probably too soon. The trends don’t turn on a dime. I’m just guessing here but I would guesstimate that you’d have to be looking at 5 year trend lines to start seeing immigration fluctuations show up in wages.