ABC (Dec 13): Amazon workers authorize strike at company's first-ever unionized warehouse

Depends what day of they week ya check.
Latest tick was up so, no.

Wages are well below trend, but wiggling around the stagnant line.

Same story with job growth.

I think the Amazon employees would be fools to push for a big wage increase now. I don’t reckon they are fools so, this is probably about pushing for union recognition before Donald Trump starts appointing people to the NLRB.

Till they are filled by people who are eating the dogs?

Dear New York,
You can have your packages when the union stops striking.

XXOOs,
Amazon

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Shutting down that one and moving it is another union breaker.

Hopefully not. The rust belt is the reason he’s President. Biden got the rust belt because they saw him as solidly union. I saw this just from the yard I worked in. They were Trump/Biden/Trump. If Trump starts siding with Amazon, that will hurt the republicans in future elections. We don’t know what will happen with the census of 2030.

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Agreed 100%. You can’t just demand a huge wage increase. Not how it works. I’ve been in unions since I was 18, it never worked that way. There’s always a give and take. But companies don’t like that either, because they don’t want to give. I don’t blame them. But some of these union leaders can push to the point you lose your job.

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He is definitely against “special interests” having undue influence in Washington.

The example of the Longshoremen’s fits well in his wheelhouse.

  • seaports are basically used for imports (we don’t export much by container)
  • gov’t has a monopoly on seaports, (and airports and train stations etc.)
  • in the case of seaports, gov’t set up or allowed a consortium of private companies to have monopoly power in running them
  • Once the gov’t did those two things a single union (labor monopoly?) operated across all the harbors.
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The Amazon union is a little different. If I don’t order from Amazon I can order from Walmart, or Ebay or Temu etc… If the Amazon workers make crazy demands, Amazon loses business to Walmart, or Amazon can reroute via warehouses in Pennsylvania.

Where Donald Trump would come down on this issue is a little less clear.

and now with trumps mass deportation plan. that will effect labor in the united states how?

Allan

It is called supplyand demand and I would appreciate it if you stop pretnending you are stupid.
(I ahave said many times on this forum Iliked it better back when liberals retended when were educated)

Whne retaillers and nany companie and lawncare companies and roofers etc. hire a bunch of illegals . . . then the labor supply available in all areas (even warehouses and Uber jobs) increases driving wages down.

Do you really not understand supply and demand?
Do you really enjoy spending your weekends pretending you don’t?

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413 million in 2022. Granted that’s about 20 percent of exports but that sure doesn’t feel like “ not much”

Amazon can’t allow that to happen. They have to remain competitive regardless of compensation. It’s only one warehouse. They’re not going to have much leverage.

How does UPS manage it? They have to have the most compensated driving force in the country. I don’t even think it is close.

Hmm 413 million worth of containerized cargo exported from the US harbors?

I am confused.

The US exports wheat and soybeans and natural gas and a bunch of stuff that is not containerized, but as far as containerized cargo goes? . . . .Umm empty containers are our #1 export product. :joy: :grin: :grin: :scream: :rage: :tired_face: :rofl:

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From the article:

The three largest U.S. ports — Los Angeles, Long Beach, and New York/New Jersey — process nearly half of all loaded imports. In 2022, DAT found that the trio of ports collectively handled 13.8 million containers, which are commonly known as 20-foot equivalent units (TEUs). However, about three out of every four containers received by these ports returned to their overseas destinations with only “air,” or in other words, empty. . . .

Correct.

That second part is funny :joy:

Empty containers make so much sense :joy:

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Giving manual laborers more leverage by not flooding the labor market.

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joining a union is not crazy.

nor will the union negotiate unreasonable demands.

what amazon is refusing to do is bargain in good faith with the union.

not acceptable.

Allan

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Where did he say joining a union was crazy? He may think that, I don’t know. But that’s not what he said.

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I worked with someone that used to work at an Amazon warehouse. He told me a lot of stuff that made me thankful I worked for unions all of my life. I then verified it by watching people talk about the job. I find it fascinating what people will endure.

But I have one question, something I couldn’t verify. If you’re seen talking to a union member, maybe some came around the warehouse to protest. Are you fired on the spot?