The poor? No.
Middle Class? Yes.
In, a, let’s say, progressive manner. i
The poor? No.
Middle Class? Yes.
In, a, let’s say, progressive manner. i
There are exceptions to every generality.
Policy violence? Thats some dumb rhetoric.
Yes normally provided by a fire department or job. I got mine as a senior in HS working Ski Patrol at night after school. Paramedic would be a better example you are trying make.
This is what YOU said.
We don’t require your consent, just your taxes. Thanks, BTW.
And I said.
Spoken like true authoritarian that I’ve come to expect from libs.
You claim we throw around baseless words which has no meaning.
You guys baselessly throw these words around so much that they have lost all meaning.
Facts remain…it doesn’t change who and what libs are.
Why do I get that feeling…
Why do I get that feeling…
Probably should not ask… what?
It was a stupid question the first time and even stupider the second. If you can’t figure out from the OP that we are not talking about all taxes, go use some of your money for a reading comprehension class.
But we are talking about all taxes. We pay our federal taxes which go into a pot, and our representatives decide how to spend it. We don’t pay taxes, dedicated just to welfare and another set of taxes dedicated just to defense.
Yet I am an “authoritarian lib” simply for pointing out we levy taxes to pay for stuff?
But we are talking about all taxes. We pay our federal taxes which go into a pot, and our representatives decide how to spend it. We don’t pay taxes, dedicated just to welfare and another set of taxes dedicated just to defense.
It would be cool if every check stub we get, we see where those taxes are going…both fed and state. (Or at least a quarterly statement)
This is what YOU said.
Supreme_War_Pig:We don’t require your consent, just your taxes. Thanks, BTW.
And I said.
conan:Spoken like true authoritarian that I’ve come to expect from libs.
You claim we throw around baseless words which has no meaning.
Supreme_War_Pig:You guys baselessly throw these words around so much that they have lost all meaning.
Facts remain…it doesn’t change who and what libs are.
Nor does it make sense. Pay up, get garnished and still pay up, or go to prison. The government doesn’t require your assent to spend the money.
Supreme_War_Pig:But we are talking about all taxes. We pay our federal taxes which go into a pot, and our representatives decide how to spend it. We don’t pay taxes, dedicated just to welfare and another set of taxes dedicated just to defense.
It would be cool if every check stub we get, we see where those taxes are going…both fed and state. (Or at least a quarterly statement)
Well yeah, but the point that I am trying to make is the government doesn’t require my assent to fund Saudi Arabia’s Yemeni genocide, nor does it require their assent for college debt relief.
The government doesn’t require your assent to spend the money.
Again…spoken like a true authoritarian.
BTW…very big government you endorsed.
Supreme_War_Pig:The government doesn’t require your assent to spend the money.
Again…spoken like a true authoritarian.
BTW…very big government you endorsed.
There you go again, trivializing a word by throwing it around heedlessy.
The government simply does not need your consent to spend money. On the federal level, the closest you get to providing your consent is voting for offices every two years.
Once the vote is complete, all you can do is hope that the person you voted for remains true to their word. If they break bad, and decide to fund college debt, are you asked for your consent? Of course not. The best you can do is vote against them.
zantax:So you are in favor of having the poor and middle class paying federal income taxes?
The poor? No.
Middle Class? Yes.In, a, let’s say, progressive manner. i
So your assertion that if you live in a society you should contribute was what?
conan: Supreme_War_Pig:The government doesn’t require your assent to spend the money.
Again…spoken like a true authoritarian.
BTW…very big government you endorsed.
There you go again, trivializing a word by throwing it around heedlessy.
The government simply does not need your consent to spend money. On the federal level, the closest you get to providing your consent is voting for offices every two years.
Once the vote is complete, all you can do is hope that the person you voted for remains true to their word. If they break bad, and decide to fund college debt, are you asked for your consent? Of course not. The best you can do is vote against them.
Ignores the constitution and the fact that spending must be for expressly enumerated powers and that supporting someone else, isn’t one of them.
Speaking of
We paid for our daughter’s college education. Every penny of it.
May I get reimbursed for not committing violence?
Through the consent of the governed.
Which governed voters said, “Sure, take my money and pay off someone else’s school loans” ?
At best, some voters have said, “Sure, take [that guy’s] money and pay off my school loans.”
Supreme_War_Pig: conan: Supreme_War_Pig:The government doesn’t require your assent to spend the money.
Again…spoken like a true authoritarian.
BTW…very big government you endorsed.
There you go again, trivializing a word by throwing it around heedlessy.
The government simply does not need your consent to spend money. On the federal level, the closest you get to providing your consent is voting for offices every two years.
Once the vote is complete, all you can do is hope that the person you voted for remains true to their word. If they break bad, and decide to fund college debt, are you asked for your consent? Of course not. The best you can do is vote against them.
Ignores the constitution and the fact that spending must be for expressly enumerated powers and that supporting someone else, isn’t one of them.
Congress has the power to tax and spend. Now I will agree that the “general welfare” clause does some very heavy lifting in this regard, but you have to balance that against the fact that this is how it has been done.
What you need to do nowis convince enough politicians to a accept this view and change accordingly.
And until such a time, your consent just isn’t required.
Unless that “you” is on duty on a night as an EMT, and arrives after you have been rear ended by a uninsured drunk driver, and has the skills to save your life.
That EMT would be an EMT whether or not your money paid off his college debt tomorrow. Thus, paying off his college debt benefits HIM, not me or you or Sneaky or anyone else here.
Dem:Through the consent of the governed.
Which governed voters said, “Sure, take my money and pay off someone else’s school loans” ?
At best, some voters have said, “Sure, take [that guy’s] money and pay off my school loans.”
I think your question should be directed to your representatives. They are the governed who govern.