A few interesting 2A cases in recent days

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@zantax

Guns are far from the only way to kill people.

But they are unquestionably the easiest way to kill people.

Not true.

[WuWei]

@W_and_C

Overall yes, they may be less violent.

However, cases like these almost seem like a crime of opportunity i.e. someone loses their temper and because they have easy access to a deadly weapon, someone then tragically loses their life.

In both cases, they had access to multiple deadly weapons. Would it have been any better if either of them had come back out of the house with a kitchen knife?

[W_and_C]

@WuWei

@W_and_C

Overall yes, they may be less violent.

However, cases like these almost seem like a crime of opportunity i.e. someone loses their temper and because they have easy access to a deadly weapon, someone then tragically loses their life.

In both cases, they had access to multiple deadly weapons. Would it have been any better if either of them had come back out of the house with a kitchen knife?

Yup, it would have been much better actually. You disagree ?

[WuWei]

@W_and_C

Yup, it would have been much better actually. You disagree ?

Why would it have been much better? Are you less dead from a knife than a gun?

And in the Florida case, the motorcyclist could have still shot her.

[Steel-W0LF]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@zantax

Guns are far from the only way to kill people.

But they are unquestionably the easiest way to kill people.

No they aren’t. Not even close.

[W_and_C]

@WuWei

@W_and_C

Yup, it would have been much better actually. You disagree ?

Why would it have been much better? Are you less dead from a knife than a gun?

And in the Florida case, the motorcyclist could have still shot her.

Knives are a lot of harder to injure with than guns. In fact, if knives are as deadly as guns, a firearm probably would never have been invented.

[WuWei]

That’s not true at all.

[W_and_C]

@WuWei

That’s not true at all.

Interesting. So take two activities where killing is a desired outcome - hunting and waging war.

I’m guessing the primary tools used in those two are knives ? Know many hunters who sneak up on a deer and stab them to death ?

[WuWei]

Have a nice day.

[TheRedComet]

No. Not really.

Handguns require practice to use effectively. You hand someone a handgun and tell them to shoot a target at 25 feet and 99 times out of 100, they won’t even come close to hitting it.

They’d be better served running someone over with their car. In the Florida incident, considering the other person was on a motorcycle, she could have easily done that.

[TheRedComet]

Guns are effective with training.

Without any sort of instruction and practice, they aren’t nearly as effective as something like a baseball bat.

Hitting someone with an object, or even using your fists, is natural. It’s something the body does out of instinct. Humans have been doing that since we first walked upright.

Utilizing a projectile weapon that requires utilizing your motor skills and critical thinking, like a bow or a gun, requires at least some level of instruction and practice to become competent. You have to learn how to aim properly. How to counter the recoil with good stance. How to even draw the gun and flip off the safety (granted, a lot of double action semi autos don’t have mechanical safeties, but they’ll still use a trigger safety or a back strap safety that has to be depressed to function).

[Tom_Ch]

In Texas or Florida, we should assume everyone is packing.

[TheRedComet]

How’s that a bad thing?

An armed society is a polite society.

Some people are irresponsible idiots and ruin that. But they aren’t the majority.

[Tom_Ch]

@TheRedComet

How’s that a bad thing?

An armed society is a polite society.

Some people are irresponsible idiots and ruin that. But they aren’t the majority.

I’m not saying it’s bad. Just have to be aware so you should behave accordingly.

[Samm]

@W_and_C

@WuWei

@W_and_C

Overall yes, they may be less violent.

However, cases like these almost seem like a crime of opportunity i.e. someone loses their temper and because they have easy access to a deadly weapon, someone then tragically loses their life.

In both cases, they had access to multiple deadly weapons. Would it have been any better if either of them had come back out of the house with a kitchen knife?

Yup, it would have been much better actually. You disagree ?

Much better how? Better because the bigger, stronger, very angry aggressor might have taken the knife from the guy and killed him with it instead?

[DougBH]

@zantax

Let the cops handle it unless you are under imminent threat.

Unless you live in a “progressive” area that underfunds cops and won’t prosecute criminals.

[Guilds]

@Samm

It’s starting to seem that way because the media doesn’t give the same level if attention to non-firearm incidents, even when they result in deaths.

Like what? Accidents?

[WuWei]

@Tom_Ch

In Texas or Florida, we should assume everyone is packing.

In Texas, you should assume saying “packing” gets you classified as a clown.

[Tom_Ch]

@WuWei

@Tom_Ch

In Texas or Florida, we should assume everyone is packing.

In Texas, you should assume saying “packing” gets you classified as a clown.

Yes. Assume everyone is carrying.

[Guilds]

@TheRedComet

An armed society is a polite society.

Bull ■■■■■

America is armed to the teeth, comparatively speaking. How does our death rate by firearm compare to other 1st world countries? Including suicides.