A devastating question to the Left and the NeverTrumpers

Abuse of power is whatever the decides is abuse of power when forming articles of impeachment…

So, asking for two scoops of ice cream when everyone else gets one, is impeachable as an abuse of power. Yep. The Dems are going insane over not being able to find any real dirt on POTUS.

Well, in layman‘s terms, I guess it would be things like “soliciting the leader of a foreign country to provide oppo research on a political opponent” or “throwing hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars of taxpayers’ money to your own failing business”.

So, Phaedrus, you can’t define "abuse of power. " How can you determine that a specific action is an abuse of power if you can’t give a comprehensive definition of abuse of power?

What are high crimes and misdemeanors, as specifically defined in the Constitution? Answer me that, and I’ll tell you whether they include “abuse of power”.

Are you under the impression that word mincing is somehow going to keep the president from being impeached? Impeachment is not subject to review by anyone…

Let me see if I can work myself up to devastated.

Trying … Trying … Trying …

Nope - sorry - can’t quite swing it…

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I just spent 30 seconds being devastated… I’ll admit it was kind of forced and not really sincere but I think I put on a pretty good performance…

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I got to the end of this thread. No real devastation. Bummer.

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Crimes and misdemeanours against the Federal government, as opposed to against private citizens or state legislatures. That seems to have been the meaning of “high” in 1776. So, lying to the federal Congress and Senate under oath, even about sex or about tax targeting, or about CIA or FBI spying activities, would undermine the legitimate investigative authority of the state, making such behaviour against the state permissible for all citizens.

For a moment, put aside your belief that Trump didn’t do it. That’s for a congressional investigation to decide. If it can be proven, to the satisfaction of 67 senators, that Trump solicited opposition research from a foreign country, is that an impeachable offense worthy of conviction? It’s certainly against the law.

I was just coming in here to find out what the “devastating question” was, so I guess I wasted my time again?

Bummer, indeed!

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Right Wingers are such teasers.

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This is no debate on whether impeachment is reviewable, it’s not… The HOUSE determines what are high crimes and misdemeanors, nobody else…

Which law?

In the constitution, “high” means what it meant at the time it was written, not what politicians think it means today.

Let’s say you are 100% correct? Who does the president appeal to if he disagrees?

In an ideal world, he would appeal to the people, and be allowed to run for the presidency for the people to decide. But constitutionally, it might be that the framers made the mistake of allowing mere politicians to prevent that course. I have no idea why they did so. One major flaw in their document.

I’m bummed too. Sort of.

Good post. Devastating.

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