A devastating question to the Left and the NeverTrumpers

Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff have said recently that they won’t seek impeachment against Trump unless strong evidence turns up against him.
This seems to have displeased some on the left. Think about what their reaction to this news means. To some on the Left, they want Trump impeached even if there is very weak or no evidence at all against him. And in fact this extends to the Mueller investigation and all other investigations against him.

This raises a startling question to be posed to the anti-Trump crowd: Would you want Trump convicted and or brought up on charges even if you KNEW the evidence against him was falsified?

Astonishingly, many on the Left and the NeverTrumpers would answer Yes to that question.


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This is a baffling thread.

You appear to have pulled a “question” out of your imagination, and then decided what the answer is - and magically assigned that answer to your opponents.

Is this a debate tactic that normally works for you?


No and no they wouldn’t.

How many exactly is “many”?



What is the “devastating question”?

I think Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rep. Adam Schiff have adroitly and expertly handled the “impeachment” question. There couldn’t be any better response for Speaker Pelosi than that which she made, and frankly, Trump isn’t worth “it”, impeachment for what is known with certainty at this point.

Luckily, no movement on impeachment will proceed without Speaker Pelosi’s approval, no matter how many House Democrats might wish it would, even for those who would wish it, allegedly, with falsified evidence (not that there would need to be any).

i think the voters are gonna “impeach” Trump during the next election.

As a Never Trumper, I feel I can speak for all Never Trumpers and say “You got us! We’re now devastated!”



I’d be happy to see him serve out his first term and then be publicly shamed for the rest of his life. I just want an adult in the WH.


I’m not sure why (no really…I’m actually not sure why), but this thread suddenly reminded me of the “Yellowstone eruption is imminent” thread. That was an awesome thread.


I can’t help noticing all the deflection here.

The fact are left has been mislead by their party masters, they know they have been lied to. The fact that they have taken in those lies to be the truth…so one cannot accept they have been abused/used.

Easier to just lash out.


No, if Trump didn’t commit a crime he shouldn’t be convicted of one. Duh.


I have no party masters.

Nor have I deflected.

I certainly have not been mislead, despite all the Left and Right lying to me in an attempt to mislead.

Lash out?


I haven’t done that either.

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No sane democrat would.

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I believe the current count in the Washington Post fact check is that Trump has lied to the American people 9000 times. That is devastating.

To my knowledge Robert Mueller has not lied to the public… that’s what happens when you keep your own counsel.

So, let me get this straight, I am supposed to be upset with Robert Mueller.

Funny how your not worried about how many times Washington compost lied to you. :wink:

What lies?

Almost as funny as your goalpost move

I would reject lies from the Washington Post happily but someone needs to provide contrary facts.

This whole thread built on projection. I see Trump’s opponents waiting as the case is built; I see Trump’s fans chanting “Lock her up” and discarding the presumption of innocence casually But in this thread Trump’s opponents are accused of wanting to convict without evidence.

Trump lies constantly, but in this thread his opponents are liars.

Our legal process moves slowly and that seems to be the main line of defense for Trump; that it does not move as quickly as a crowd chants “Lock her up.”

The Republicans brought an impeachment case against Bill Clinton that fell apart, because impeachment is a political process, not a legal one. Now Republicans are taunting Democrats for not doing what Republicans do. What possible value would there be in a trial in the Senate where the outcome is a foregone conclusion.

There are people who believe in the rule of law and people who believe in mob rule and circuses. We have different values.


Every time you ask that…they never get with anything concrete.


Deflection doesn’t require support.

What the hell are you talking about.

A guy posts a BS OP, disappears, we don’t take it serious(as it deserves)…and we’re deflecting. :joy::rofl: :rofl:

Get real.