94% of COVID deaths had underlying medical conditions

[mobiusptc]

@NebraskaFootball

@BillBrown

This is pretty meaningless.
Here is the list given of prominent “preexisting conditions”.

• Influenza and pneumonia
• Respiratory failure
• Hypertensive disease
• Diabetes
• Vascular and unspecified dementia
• Cardiac Arrest
• Heart failure
• Renal failure
• Intentional and unintentional injury, poisoning and other adverse events
• Other medical conditions

These probably take in everyone in the world. High blood pressure and diabetes take in 60% of people over 50. “Other medical conditions” will take in the rest of the population.

Finally, some sanity. This is a good and correct post.

We are going to lose 300,000+ Americans in 2020 alone to COVID. 20,000 of them may have been considered 100% healthy in every single regard. The rest may have had some other health condition from which COVID hastened their demise.

High blood pressure? High cholesterol? Obesity? Diabetes? All of which would be considered health conditions contributing to death from COVID. If a 60 year old man on blood pressure medication contracts COVID and dies, then he would be listed as having a health condition that contributed to his death. Would he have died this year without COVID and from his high blood pressure that is regulated with medicine? Probably not.

And now we have some here cheering as if this means COVID is not as horrible as it actually is. It’s ■■■■■■■ insane. We have people© in this country that have lost their ■■■■■■■ marbles. No connection to reality. Worms have officially devoured brains.

Doesn’t even begin with the long term ramifications of those that survive either; strokes, neurologic issues, cardiac issues, amputations, etc

[sikofit]

@Jezcoe

@Eagle-Keeper

@PizzaReverend

Congratulations, you just discovered what “Immunocompromised” or “high risk” means.

The 94% number is what was I found surprising.

There are a ton of people with underlying ailments.

I have high blood pressure that I treat with medication.

If I were to get Covid, I would be at higher risk though it would not be a death sentence but if I were to die, my high blood pressure would be a contributing factor.

So I, am otherwise healthy guy, would have an underlying factor that would contribute to my death if I were to contract Covid.

I would think the number of Americans with some type of underlying condition is almost as high as those without.

[JayJay]

They were totally going to die anyway so why get fussed?

[sikofit]

@Smyrna

@Jezcoe

We already knew that Covid affects the elderly more than any other age group.

So… what is new here?

…that of the 100% deaths being attributed to the virus, only 6% actually died from it alone.

No, they died because they caught Covid. The excess mortality for 2020 is already over 200,000.

[sikofit]

@highroller

This is general knowledge. Why are people acting surprised? Also

43% of U.S. Households Report Preexisting Conditions

Thanks for posting that. It lines up almost exactly with what I was thinking

[JayJay]

@Smyrna

@Jezcoe

We already knew that Covid affects the elderly more than any other age group.

So… what is new here?

…that of the 100% deaths being attributed to the virus, only 6% actually died from it alone.

Not true.

I know that’s the latest talking point being bandied about, but had these guys not caught COVID, they likely would not have died.

Same thing happens if they catch the flu and die of complications…we attribute flu as a CoD.

With COVID, this happens at a rate 5-6x greater then the flu, however.

[sikofit]

@highroller

There may be under-reporting of covid deaths as well, so the number is probably higher than reported.

Yeah, the number of excess deaths for 2020 is already over 200,000.

US Already Had Over 200,000 Excess Deaths This Year, CDC Data Show

[sikofit]

@Rodeo

@gooddad409

I take it some what seriously since i have one of those underlying side issues but i refuse to cower in fear from it.

I do what I think is reasonable NOT what the left demands we do.

So far i haven’t even had the normal cold for over 18 months. Knock on wood.

I m currently being evaluated for some kind of auto immune condition…lupus and rheumatoid arthritis have both been mentioned…I guess I’ll wait and see what the dr says.

But again imho this virus ain’t going away. You can postpone college football until the spring…what are you going to do in the spring when it’s still in our lives? Hide in a hole???

No!

We need to get back to living.

There will be a vaccine in spring. Better to wait until then than risk lives for a game.

[sikofit]

@NebraskaFootball

@BillBrown

This is pretty meaningless.
Here is the list given of prominent “preexisting conditions”.

• Influenza and pneumonia
• Respiratory failure
• Hypertensive disease
• Diabetes
• Vascular and unspecified dementia
• Cardiac Arrest
• Heart failure
• Renal failure
• Intentional and unintentional injury, poisoning and other adverse events
• Other medical conditions

These probably take in everyone in the world. High blood pressure and diabetes take in 60% of people over 50. “Other medical conditions” will take in the rest of the population.

Finally, some sanity. This is a good and correct post.

We are going to lose 300,000+ Americans in 2020 alone to COVID. 20,000 of them may have been considered 100% healthy in every single regard. The rest may have had some other health condition from which COVID hastened their demise.

High blood pressure? High cholesterol? Obesity? Diabetes? All of which would be considered health conditions contributing to death from COVID. If a 60 year old man on blood pressure medication contracts COVID and dies, then he would be listed as having a health condition that contributed to his death. Would he have died this year without COVID and from his high blood pressure that is regulated with medicine? Probably not.

And now we have some here cheering as if this means COVID is not as horrible as it actually is. It’s ■■■■■■■ insane. We have people© in this country that have lost their ■■■■■■■ marbles. No connection to reality. Worms have officially devoured brains.

Great but sobering post

[Conservative_frk]

This should be a call to be healthier. Ya know, take care of yourself and avoid diseases caused by your behavior. It’ll save your life.

[Ben_Natuf]

maybe even go to the gym!

[BillBrown]

@Ben_Natuf

maybe even go to the gym!

No. You may get athlete’s foot. That’s an “other medical condition”

[gooddad409]

@Rodeo

@gooddad409

Well we eat out (usually where the fewest cars are parked outside) , go to church(small congregation with social distancing), grocery shop (with masks), and of course i still go to the shooting range.

I have the type 2 diabetes. Well under control with a 5.8 a1c but still that’s a problem concerning the virus.

My theory is you’ve either had it, you’ve got it or you are going to get it.

We ve all been wearing those stupid masks all summer and people are still getting sick. I m no dr but it seems the bottom line is there are citizens who need special care but until the rest of us are allowed to develop some immunity we as a country are just running on an extra fast treadmill going no where.

You have a lot of good points there.

[Rodeo]

@sikofit

There will be a vaccine in spring. Better to wait until then than risk lives for a game.

The vaccine isn’t going to be a magic pill…people will still get sick.

[tnt]

@Conservative_frk

I am a hospital employee and we have protocols to protect ourselves and patients from spreading disease. That being said, I was still exposed to Covid. I have high blood pressure and an autoimmune disease and am not a spring chicken …and it was like a cold. It wasn’t even as bad as the flu. Those that live in my house got it as well. My husband also has health issues. We all had nothing more than a cold.
Yes, many people have been really sick and have had to be hospitalized.
But we also need to stop spreading fear and panic. The majority of people who have gotten the virus have had symptoms like my family experienced or were even asymptomatic.
No matter how careful you are, even if you wear PPE, you are going to come into contact with other human beings who may give you this virus. Unless, you never leave your house, never let anyone in.

I’m glad you and your family are OK.

When you say it was a cold, did it take the typical path of headache/sore throat > Nasal Congestion > Upper respiratory congestion and cough?

Or did it still have the aches and pains associated with the flu, but in a milder form?

I ask because a someone I have been in contact with claims they only have a cold - offering up no fever, no body aches, and their illness following the traditional path of the cold - and I’m trying to figure out wether I should instead treat my contact as if they have COVID.

[gooddad409]

@Rodeo

@sikofit

There will be a vaccine in spring. Better to wait until then than risk lives for a game.

The vaccine isn’t going to be a magic pill…people will still get sick.

Yeah those flu vaccines don’t keep everyone from getting it. It helps maybe.

[Rodeo]

@gooddad409

You have a lot of good points there

And I wrote that whole post and never once suggested that it might get magically better on or about November 4!!!

[tnt]

@Jezcoe

Having underlying conditions makes it much more likely to die from the disease.

This isn’t anything new or shocking.

It’s actually pretty divesting that this one virus effects such a wide range of conditions that it can be fatal to any number of them.

But no matter how you slice it, 180K americans are dead because they caught the virus. There is no solace in knowing most of them also were obese, or had diabetes, or had asthma, or had a heart condition…