I guess I just don’t buy the copycat theory. We’ve always had highly public murders, as you pointed out.
What percentage of U.S. households have a gun?
Roughly 42% of U.S. households have a gun.
I guess I just don’t buy the copycat theory. We’ve always had highly public murders, as you pointed out.
Not “sadly.”
I’m glad my right to bear arms is enshrined in the Bill of Rights.
My black ancestors often had that right denied to them in the Jim Crow South. And they were oppressed with no way to fight back.
I’ll never give what is mine up. Never again.
Listening to what this forensic psychologist said 14 years ago about school shootings it’s obvious the media didn’t take his advice. It all changed after columbine especially the coverage.
There were two of them… that’s social…
Somehow an anti-gun activists, who just happens to be “vacationing in Nashville,” jumps on the mic at the crime scene and goes on a gun control screed.
The Tennessee shooter already broke existing gun laws.
Short of banning all guns, another law wouldn’t have stopped her. (And many not even if all guns were banned, but I just speculate on that.)
W_and_C:Maybe social media doesn’t matter here that much ? My argument is simply that Columbine likely inspired copycats - mostly lonely depressed boys.
I guess I just don’t buy the copycat theory. We’ve always had highly public murders, as you pointed out.
Columbine was a bit unique , I believe. I remember the headlines and reports were just non-stop. It really jolted the society.
I can’t prove it but yeah, I do think that some future shooters thought this was their way to get their names into some headlines.
It may not be the cause for why they choose to go this route, but it certainly inspired their tactics.
Most mass shooters who are at least partially organized emulate Harris and Klebold’s methods and tactics for scoping the target school, infiltration tactics, and the massacre itself.
There were two of them… that’s social…
Social without the media.
Link ?
https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/gun-ownership.html
Roughly 42% of U.S. households have a gun.
No other developed nation has this same problem with mass shootings at schools
No other nation has convinced 25% of their kids that pretending to be the opposite gender is the right thing to do either.
FreeAndClear:There were two of them… that’s social…
Social without the media.
Right. But they reinforced each other. That’s what social media does. It reinforces the drive.
It may not be the cause for why they choose to go this route, but it certainly inspired their tactics.
Most mass shooters who are at least partially organized emulate Harris and Klebold’s methods and tactics for scoping the target school, infiltration tactics, and the massacre itself.
Yeah, I agree on tactics. If you’re going to do it, it makes sense to see how others did it. But the question for me is how do you decide to do it?
The share of American households owning at least one firearm has remained relatively steady since 1972, hovering between 37 percent and 47 percent.
Not changing much.
TheRedComet:It may not be the cause for why they choose to go this route, but it certainly inspired their tactics.
Most mass shooters who are at least partially organized emulate Harris and Klebold’s methods and tactics for scoping the target school, infiltration tactics, and the massacre itself.
Yeah, I agree on tactics. If you’re going to do it, it makes sense to see how others did it. But the question for me is how do you decide to do it?
That’s the complicated part of the situation.
Another thing, how many plan it out and then never act on it? Probably a lot more than we realize.
Shooter gained unobserved access through an unsecured side entrance and opened fire once inside…
Sounds familiar.
Gun ownership in the U.S. 1972-2023 | Statista
Not changing much.
Even “not changing much” breaks the correlation.
Right. But they reinforced each other. That’s what social media does. It reinforces the drive.
Yes, I agree social media reinforces harmful behavior, I’m just not convinced it’s the root of the problem.
W_and_C:Gun ownership in the U.S. 1972-2023 | Statista
Not changing much.
Even “not changing much” breaks the correlation.
Well, I never talked about trends. As I recall, I’ve said we’ve had school shootings since 18th century.
If you want a fairer comparison, we should pick a society that has stricter gun laws than we do and compare their numbers with ours.
F.e. Japan where there’s almost no private gun ownership at all. How many school shootings do they have ?
It’s not the guns or the access.
Total number of guns in circulation has increased.
It doesn’t seem like the solution is more guns or more access to them. (Not saying you said this, but it is a fairly common talking point)
FreeAndClear:Right. But they reinforced each other. That’s what social media does. It reinforces the drive.
Yes, I agree social media reinforces harmful behavior, I’m just not convinced it’s the root of the problem.
Oh i agree about it not being the root. You cannot blame an outside force as being the root automatically. It can be but it cannot be the only one