40 people killed at Mosque shooting in New Zealand

[Samm]

@Nemesis

@Samm

You can step off the merry-go-round anytime you like. But before you do, please explain how you can both not change your mind about what you said, i.e. believe in what you said, and not think that (what you said) deeply about this Forum? Seems to me that you must either think we are racists and bigots or you don’t.

Samm you need to step away from the keyboard and connect with the real world. I dont think that deeply about this forum. It took me less than a few minutes of reading this thread at the begining to come to my conclusion. But I will admit it was an easy conclusion because I did spend a few additional minutes elsewhere and saw some rather illuminating posts on a messageboard that must not be named.

I don’t need to do anything. Your conclusion were reached by “reading between the lines” (your words) so if anyone here needs to connect to the real world, it’s you.

[Zander]

@Samm

@Zander

@Samm

@Oryx

New Zealand’s deputy prime minister said the accused terrorist would spend the rest of his life in prison in isolation. That’s worse than the death penalty for someone so young.

So no trial or sentencing by a court? Is she now the Dictator of New Zealand who has replaced the Judicial system?

There will be a trial. There will be sentencing. No, she is not a dictator. What an excellent question.

And another one missed the point …

No, I understood your “point”. It was absurd.

[WuWei]

@Oryx

New Zealand’s deputy prime minister said the accused terrorist would spend the rest of his life in prison in isolation. That’s worse than the death penalty for someone so young.

Way to taint the jury pool.

[Samm]

@Zander

@Samm

@Zander

@Samm

@Oryx

New Zealand’s deputy prime minister said the accused terrorist would spend the rest of his life in prison in isolation. That’s worse than the death penalty for someone so young.

So no trial or sentencing by a court? Is she now the Dictator of New Zealand who has replaced the Judicial system?

There will be a trial. There will be sentencing. No, she is not a dictator. What an excellent question.

And another one missed the point …

No, I understood your “point”. It was absurd.

You are right. For the Prime Minister to declare not only his guilt, but also his sentence, prior to conducting a trial IS absurd.

(If Trump ever did such a thing, you guys would go ballistic.)

[WuWei]

@Samm

(If Trump ever did such a thing, you guys would go ballistic.)

He did. And they did.

[westaussie]

The deputy PM of New Zealand is Winston Peters. It will come as a great surprise to HIM and HIS wife that according to you he is a female.

As to the rest of your post the accused will face court as per the normal practice.

[westaussie]

I am not sure whether NZ has trials with a judge only; we certainly have them in WA.

[WuWei]

@westaussie

I am not sure whether NZ has trials with a judge only; we certainly have them in WA.

Undue influence in the legal process.

[westaussie]

Please provide the link to what was actually said.

[WuWei]

She’s your viceroy.

[westaussie]

Are you referring to lizzie?

[Samm]

@westaussie

The deputy PM of New Zealand is Winston Peters. It will come as a great surprise to HIM and HIS wife that according to you he is a female.

As to the rest of your post the accused will face court as per the normal practice.

Pardon me all to Hell … I missed the word “deputy.”

Whatever. Your archaic British form of government is a mystery to me even after decades of watching PBS shows. It’s like watching cliques of kids on the school grounds argue. It’s no wonder the PM just dictates how she wants things done.

If he will face a court, why is he pronouncing sentence now? In America that would be called poisoning the jury pool.

[westaussie]

No-one has pronounced a sentence; that can only happen once the accused faces a court trial and is found guilty. In Western Australia we can have judge trials with no jury. I am not sure whether that is the case in NZ.

[Nemesis]

@Samm

@westaussie

The deputy PM of New Zealand is Winston Peters. It will come as a great surprise to HIM and HIS wife that according to you he is a female.

As to the rest of your post the accused will face court as per the normal practice.

Pardon me all to Hell … I missed the word “deputy.”

Whatever. Your archaic British form of government is a mystery to me even after decades of watching PBS shows. It’s like watching cliques of kids on the school grounds argue. It’s no wonder the PM just dictates how she wants things done.

If he will face a court, why is he pronouncing sentence now? In America that would be called poisoning the jury pool.

There are many aspects of the US system that would not be allowed in the UK. For example subjudice applea in the UK. Aas soon as a case goes to trial all reporting has to stop except for facts relating to the case. When I first moved to the US i was surprised that talk radio and political commentators were discussing thei opinions of cases currently at trial. But I accept that might cause first amendments issues here.

[westaussie]

Yes sub judice seems to be a foreign concept in the USA

[Samm]

@westaussie

No-one has pronounced a sentence; that can only happen once the accused faces a court trial and is found guilty. In Western Australia we can have judge trials with no jury. I am not sure whether that is the case in NZ.

“New Zealand’s deputy prime minister said the accused terrorist would spend the rest of his life in prison in isolation.”

[Samm]

@westaussie

Yes sub judice seems to be a foreign concept in the USA

Government leaders pronouncing guilt and stating the sentence before a trial is a foreign concept in the US.

[Samm]

@Nemesis

@Samm

@westaussie

The deputy PM of New Zealand is Winston Peters. It will come as a great surprise to HIM and HIS wife that according to you he is a female.

As to the rest of your post the accused will face court as per the normal practice.

Pardon me all to Hell … I missed the word “deputy.”

Whatever. Your archaic British form of government is a mystery to me even after decades of watching PBS shows. It’s like watching cliques of kids on the school grounds argue. It’s no wonder the PM just dictates how she wants things done.

If he will face a court, why is he pronouncing sentence now? In America that would be called poisoning the jury pool.

There are many aspects of the US system that would not be allowed in the UK. For example subjudice applea in the UK. Aas soon as a case goes to trial all reporting has to stop except for facts relating to the case. When I first moved to the US i was surprised that talk radio and political commentators were discussing thei opinions of cases currently at trial. But I accept that might cause first amendments issues here.

That has nothing to do with the statements made by the deputy prime minister.

[WuWei]

@westaussie

Yes sub judice seems to be a foreign concept in the USA

[Oryx]

@Samm

For the Prime Minister to declare not only his guilt, but also his sentence, prior to conducting a trial IS absurd.

(If Trump ever did such a thing, you guys would go ballistic.)

Trump has done it repeatedly.