3,405 died for nothing

AQ is still in Afghanistan and still being protected by Taliban who are expanding their control daily.
guess who else has moved into Afghanistan? ISIS.

this very thread is about making a deal with the Taliban to legitimize them as a political party.

AQ will probably exist to some extent in Afghanistan for as long as it exists at all.

You still have not supported the contention that it hasn’t been destroyed as an organization in Afghanistan or that there’s anything resembling the same conditions that existed prior to the invasion.

No, you claimed in your OP that the war was lost and our troops died for nothing. In fact that’s exactly what your op and title state.

Because they want to make a deal to legitimize the terrorist group we have been fighting for a decade, a terrorist group American troop are fighting right now.

Which takes us back to the beginning. What was the justification for the invasion of Afghanistan and what was the goal of same?

The mission changed over time to the stabilization of Afghanistan to prevent a future Terrorist state.
and now you have people wanting to make a deal with those Terrorist something America has refused to do since 2003.

Try giving a straight answer for a change if you can.

What was the point of the invasion?

What was the goal?

What is the current goal of the mission? or are you one of those people who doesn’t think situation change over the the span of a decade.

Stop deflecting and give a straight answer for a change.

Try giving a straight answer for a change if you can.

What was the point of the invasion?

What was the goal?

So CJ are you actually going to give us a straight answer for a change or just run off and hide as usual?

What was the point of the invasion?

What was the goal?

Well CJ I’ll take your silence as the expected answer.

If the Taliban lays down it’s guns, stops fighting and limits itself to the ballot box that means the Taliban lost.

In Afghanistan, as would expect in any country dominated by tribes and warlords and sects if Islam, no one ever loses 100%

Never, no where in any war does X% of the population does not simply change their mind and stop being, Nazis or monarchists, or racists with a states rights agenda or radical islamists, or Irish nationalists, or lovers of democracy or whatever.

No war has ever ended THAT way. It has never happened.

The goal was to turn Afghanista Sweden-like country where every one-time Islamic radical magically decides to respect religioys freedom and endorse 1980s American feminism.

so soviet Afghanistan?

Osama was dumped into the ocean and many of his henchmen are dead. AQ has been decimated. Our choices are to continue on and kill everyone who disagrees with our objectives or we can pull out and allow the country to pull itself back together? I say, it’s time to bring our boys home and a job well done.

Well the Taliban did have an ally in the Democrat Party of the USA and more US Soldiers died in Afghanistan in the first term of Obama then died during the entire 8years of the Bush Administration. When you are of the liberal mindset to politicize combat to gain power & control then you’re going to lose wars and a lot of US soldiers are going to die, its another danger of the current Democrat Party and a trend started by LBJ!

CanadianJudo,

I believe out goal was also to bring Democracy to the country correct?
So the fact they want to recognize the Taliban as a Legit Party then I think Democracy is working in a way.
So would you rather see the USA just take over the country as a whole and not allow the country to decide the there Democracy?

Sorry, but in America there is no rule that says you have to serve before you can speak freely.

thats a ■■■■■■ way to live your life. Thinking that unless your fellow americans serve , they don’t deserve respect.

Also LOL at your support for trump, what with his bone spurs and all. And please don’t bother with your ‘I don’t support him…’ rap. We all can read your posts here. We know you support him blindly.

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