Your Central Government and VP At Work

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Smyrna

@Supreme_War_Pig

Your second border related post in a thread about OSHA. Maybe you’d be happier in a different thread.

Why? I’m providing a great idea for libs to save lives…simply by practicing what they’re preaching.

Take it to the border wall thread then

Edit: also, didn’t Harris end up going to the border?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Call_me_Ishmael

@biggestal99

@Supreme_War_Pig

For those wondering what this is actually about, they are implementing health measures for those that work in heat.

Government protecting its citizens is a huge no-no.

Allan

True… for federal government wrt heat .

State government and local governments might see this as a legitimate function if the local population agrees.

Why would a country that runs from Alaska to Florida and Maine to Hawaii want a one-size-fits-all law regarding heat?

Sounds totalitarian to me.

Heat exhaustion is heat exhaustion. The remedies remain the same wherever you are.

And obviously the means required in a field would be different than those required in a mine.

But the basics are the same: hydration, cooled resting periods, etc.

The federal government is not the Walmart of solutions. The constitution was not written to achieve maximum efficiency. That is a totalitarian goal. The constitution was written to LIMIT what the federal government is authorized to do. Where the hell did you get the idea that efficiency was the goal of our constitution?

I didn’t say anything about efficiency.

OSHA is a congressionally created agency within the department of labor, and is wholly constitutional.

Let me guess: you don’t like OSHA to begin with, right?

[Smyrna]

@Supreme_War_Pig

Take it to the border wall thread then

Edit: also, didn’t Harris end up going to the border?

Building the wall provides adequate protection for those illegals that would attempt to stupidly and illegally cross the border in temperatures that could cause medical issues for themselves. It’s the humane thing to do for their own safety and belongs right here in this thread…agreed?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Smyrna

@Supreme_War_Pig

Take it to the border wall thread then

Edit: also, didn’t Harris end up going to the border?

Building the wall provides adequate protection for those illegals that would attempt to stupidly and illegally cross the border in temperatures that could cause medical issues for themselves. It’s the humane thing to do for their own safety and belongs right here in this thread…agreed?

Are immigrants covered by OSHA? If not, then no. Doesn’t belong.

[Camp]

Take your own advice.

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

For those wondering what this is actually about, they are implementing health measures for those that work in heat.

ENFORCEMENT it’s about *enforcement. *

“Health measures”

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Call_me_Ishmael

@biggestal99

@Supreme_War_Pig

For those wondering what this is actually about, they are implementing health measures for those that work in heat.

Government protecting its citizens is a huge no-no.

Allan

True… for federal government wrt heat .

State government and local governments might see this as a legitimate function if the local population agrees.

Why would a country that runs from Alaska to Florida and Maine to Hawaii want a one-size-fits-all law regarding heat?

Sounds totalitarian to me.

Heat exhaustion is heat exhaustion. The remedies remain the same wherever you are.

And obviously the means required in a field would be different than those required in a mine.

But the basics are the same: hydration, cooled resting periods, etc.

The federal government is not the Walmart of solutions. The constitution was not written to achieve maximum efficiency. That is a totalitarian goal. The constitution was written to LIMIT what the federal government is authorized to do. Where the hell did you get the idea that efficiency was the goal of our constitution?

I didn’t say anything about efficiency.

OSHA is a congressionally created agency within the department of labor, and is wholly constitutional.

Let me guess: you don’t like OSHA to begin with, right?

Not in its current instantiation. OSHA would be useful at being a clearinghouse of information that states could use - if they wanted to. But the authority that OSHA wields is contrary to the constitution.

[Smyrna]

@Supreme_War_Pig

Are immigrants covered by OSHA? If not, then no. Doesn’t belong.

Once they enter the USA, they obviously become the responsibility of tax payers. That’s why Joe is giving them rides around the country and a phone. Building the wall preempts all of the opportunities in nature to disrupt their lives and the lives of their families by attempting to foolishly cross the border in high temps. It makes perfect sense…and a lot more sense than flying them around the country. Surely you can agree with this?

[johnwk2]

@WuWei

https://www.osha.gov/news/newsreleases/national/04122022

Secretary Marty Walsh today joined Vice President Kamala Harris at the Sheet Metal Workers Local 19 Training Center in Philadelphia to announce the new enforcement program.

A new “enforcement” program. Centgov now expects the private sector to control summer.

Pissing away tax dollars. Great.

And usurping a regulatory power not granted by our Constitution.

“Agriculture and manufacturing involve the production of goods; commerce encompasses traffic in such articles.” ___ See U.S. vs. Lopez

JWK

Why have a written constitution approved by the people if those who it is designed to control are free to make it mean whatever they wish it to mean?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

For those wondering what this is actually about, they are implementing health measures for those that work in heat.

ENFORCEMENT it’s about *enforcement. *

“Health measures”

Okay, I think that’s fair. They know what is required to keep people alive in extreme heat, they just refuse to do it.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

Are they covered by OSHA?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Call_me_Ishmael

But the authority that OSHA wields is contrary to the constitution.

Put OSHA aside for a second. Do you believe that congress is able to legislate safety conditions in a workplace?

[WuWei]

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[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

It’ll be along the lines of adequate hydration and shaded/cooled places to rest.

Anyone who needs the central government to tell you to drink water and rest in the shade is too stupid to work for me.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

It’ll be along the lines of adequate hydration and shaded/cooled places to rest.

Anyone who needs the central government to tell you to drink water and rest in the shade is too stupid to work for me.

But as you said: the ruling isn’t about the guidelines, it is about enforcement.

[WuWei]

What does the release say?

[WuWei]

@biggestal99

Heat is an obvious, fixable problem in the workplace.

[johnwk2]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

It’ll be along the lines of adequate hydration and shaded/cooled places to rest.

Anyone who needs the central government to tell you to drink water and rest in the shade is too stupid to work for me.

But as you said: the ruling isn’t about the guidelines, it is about enforcement.

And under what provision in our Constitution is such regulatory power delegated to our federal government?

JWK
"The Constitution is the act of the people, speaking in their original character, and defining the permanent conditions of the social alliance; and there can be no doubt on the point with us, that every act of the legislative power contrary to the true intent and meaning of the Constitution, is absolutely null and void. ___ Chancellor James Kent, in his Commentaries on American Law , 1858.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@WuWei

What does the release say?

What is OSHA’s function?

[johnwk2]

@Supreme_War_Pig

What is OSHA’s function?

To exercise a regulatory power not granted by our Constitution.