Will Democrats Declare A National Emergency to Get Rid of Guns?

[H_Arendt]

@Samm

@TheDoctorIsIn

If the Court denies cert, they are in effect affirming the lower court’s decision, and making an “ultimate” determination.

That may be the effect at the moment, but it does not necessarily settle the issue. It is not an ultimate determination until the nine Justices sing.

Really: are you stain a Supreme Court ruling leaves an issue beyond challenge.

Tell that to everyone here about Rowe v. Wade. You an explain how efforts to get the court to review Rowe are illegitimate.

And refusal to grant cert is a decision – as firm as any other. Scalia’s decision in Heller made explicit the limits in the 2A and all the court was saying, in essence, is Scalia’s decision stands.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

…and when the Justices choose not to sing, the lower ruling stands as to constitutionality.

[Orygun]

@Samm

Again, denying a request to review does not constitute a ruling either way. The Supreme Court has limited time and resources; they have to reject the majority of requests regardless of the merits of the lower Court decision as a matter of practicality. And they do not have to justify there decision to not take a case to anyone.

You would think that over the last 10 years the Court would have had time to review the constitutionality of at least 1 of those hundreds of gun law cases. Why do you think they haven’t?

[Plasmaball]

And yet numerous court cases show you are wrong…

Glad we had this talk…im bored now with it since you wont accept facts…have a good one.

[mobulis]

@Samm

@Plasmaball

Guns can fall under the term arms…but arms are not guns…you have the roght to defend yourself…we have the right to regulate those arms…too bad thats how reality works.

All arms are not guns, but all guns are arms. You have the right to keep and bear arms, therefore, you have the right to keep and bear guns along with any their arm you may chose to own. And nowhere, in any English Dictionary, do the words “shall not be infringed” allow for regulation. Regulation, by definition is an infringement. The only part that you have correct is that the Court being complicit in violations of the Constitution by the other branches of Government is a reality.

What about that confuses you?

Then that makes registration perfectly constitutional.

[Perdidochas]

They will if they want to lose elections for ten years. When the AWB and Brady Bill passed, the democrats lost control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years, and they lost control of the House for 12 years

[Perdidochas]

@rolltide

They’re far more likely to go after health care or global warming.

But…

A) There are tens of thousands of deaths in this country each year due to guns
B) We have needed more restrictions/bans for quite some time
C) Nothing would burn righties arses more than a suspension of the 2nd Amendment via National Emergency declaration

A) Most (over 2/3) of those deaths are by suicide.
B) Then get Congress to pass them.
C) So government actions should be done to alienate almost half of the population?

Also, as a double Alumnus of UA, please change your password. UA is not a liberal conservative bashing place.

[Perdidochas]

@Orygun

Don’t worry- it’ll never happen. Now allowing a president to make unilateral budget decisions for his policy objectives- that should never happen either, right?

Of course it shouldn’t happen either. I’m just as much against declaring a faux national emergency for the border wall as I am against declaring a faux national emergency for guns.

[Perdidochas]

@Orygun

Here is your “emergency”.

Here is the “emergency” in terms of gun murders, it’s similarly low at this moment.

[Steel-W0LF]

@Plasmaball

And yet numerous court cases show you are wrong…

Glad we had this talk…im bored now with it since you wont accept facts…have a good one.

It’s also boring when one side pretends they don’t understand simple English.

[WuWei]

And bear. It doesn’t say “own”. It says “keep and bear.”

[WuWei]

Yemen. Yemen is US national security. Oh and 7 Venezuelans.

[Plasmaball]

Nitpicking…cool…you roll with that

[Samm]

@TheDoctorIsIn

…and when the Justices choose not to sing, the lower ruling stands as to constitutionality.

How many more times do we have to dance around the floor?

[Samm]

@Orygun

@Samm

Again, denying a request to review does not constitute a ruling either way. The Supreme Court has limited time and resources; they have to reject the majority of requests regardless of the merits of the lower Court decision as a matter of practicality. And they do not have to justify there decision to not take a case to anyone.

You would think that over the last 10 years the Court would have had time to review the constitutionality of at least 1 of those hundreds of gun law cases. Why do you think they haven’t?

You still haven’t provided the information as to how many cases involving 2nd Amendment issues have been appealed to the Supreme Court, so I couldn’t possibly know how many they have rejected vs. how many they have reviewed and ruled upon. Let’s start there before getting into a subjective pissing match as to “why.”

[Samm]

@mobulis

@Samm

@Plasmaball

Guns can fall under the term arms…but arms are not guns…you have the roght to defend yourself…we have the right to regulate those arms…too bad thats how reality works.

All arms are not guns, but all guns are arms. You have the right to keep and bear arms, therefore, you have the right to keep and bear guns along with any their arm you may chose to own. And nowhere, in any English Dictionary, do the words “shall not be infringed” allow for regulation. Regulation, by definition is an infringement. The only part that you have correct is that the Court being complicit in violations of the Constitution by the other branches of Government is a reality.

What about that confuses you?

Then that makes registration perfectly constitutional.

No it doesn’t. That would definitely be an infringement. To put it into perspective, consider having to register with the Government before you can belong to a church, write a letter to the editor, or refuse to allow police to search your home without a warrant.

[Plasmaball]

Yeah…your zero tolerance idea towards the 2nd is a no go for a majority of americans…also guns can kill you…writing a letter doesnt…anything else?

[Samm]

The pen is mightier than the sword. You are harping about the wrong Amendment.

[Plasmaball]

Ok…ill throw a pen at a watermelon and then ill shoot a watermelon…guess whats gonna happen…

Excuses for everything

[Samm]

@Plasmaball

Ok…ill throw a pen at a watermelon and then ill shoot a watermelon…guess whats gonna happen…

Excuses for everything

Says the man who thinks guns are not arms.