Why the immigration problem will never be solved

How is ‘documentation to enter private enterprise’ not precisely the topic?

It’s interesting the way neoreactionary thought has seeped into the right, in a weird doublethink sort of way.

Thinking out loud, but I wonder if Republicans constantly harping on how broken government is. Led to a need for a “strongman”, leading to dissonance in thought.

A “Democracy is great, but dictator maybe?” that seems prevalent among the alt-right and Q folk.

Let be honest even if Republican take super majority there not going to deport 11 + million people, lets stop pretending that is on the table.

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I think it’s really a matter of design. Once you understand how deeply influenced by the Nouvelle Droite the architects of post-Falwell conservatism are, you can see the handwriting pretty clearly.

Does ‘government is failure’ play its part? Probably, but this is not accidental. The people who spearheaded the idea that the state should not belong to the commons are all Libertarians to a man, and American libertarianism has never been anything but the techno-feudalism of extraction giants.

Judo.

Deport isn’t the problem. It’s the cheap labor of incarceration, especially in an economy of accelerating diminished returns and ever-growing energy costs, that should worry.

Falangist, and now Nouvelle Droite. Both of which I had to read about.

I must say, you are quite good at accurately identifying the various political movements in this country, over and above the broad brush charges of ‘fascist’ or ‘socialist’, and so forth that we normally see.

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Sure I could.

No reason you shouldn’t be. Musk reduced the cost of putting payload in space by an order of magnitude and says he can do it again.

What’s funny is when faced with actually enforcing the law and maintaining our sovereignty, the left would rather manifest a right wing boogie man than do the job.

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The majority of conservative citizens? Yes.

KAW.

Allan

Invent? You’re talking heads are literally talking about replacement, and needing to protect white demographics.

Tommy, good lord. Someone offers a compromise, which you swear isn’t possible, and your first instinct is to lay down some white guilt. Problem is, you can’t even do that right because you blame others for what you think is happening. You’re right, there will never be a compromise because you guys move the goalposts as soon as anything resembling such is promoted by calling people racists.

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The thing about ‘sovereignty’ is it’s for Leviathan.

I’m just asking whether an immigration system would actually work if there was no teeth when it came to enforcing the law.

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The book “Democracy in Chains” touches upon this. It is about the right wing funding of economist James Buchanan and the establishment of academic cover for their ■■■■■■■■ crazy economic ideas. Even though the book is a little too conspiratorial for my taste… it does touch upon the idea that there is a class of wealthy Birchers who see one of the last great untapped resources in the country as the commons and they want to be able to buy it up and privatize for as cheaply as possible.

That is bolstered by “The Fifth Risk” where Lewis talks about the political push from the owner of Accuweather keping the National Weather Service from communicating directly to the public so Accuweather can make more money using data that is in the commons.

Basically the public funding of government services with a for profit intermediary serving it to the people who already paid for it.

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Crit.

Isn’t it a banal truth that no law works unless enforced?

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Yes. And without even having that provision in place, would anything really change? Would we not be back in the same position 20 years down the line, since there’s no penalty for being here illegally?

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You and I consistently agree on this. Population growth is the elephant in the room that government can’t fix.

We’ve already been through this in 1986 and nothing changed. The politicians on both sides of the aisle lied and did not enforce our southern border and keep up their end of the bargain. Trump IS the only person since to make a serious attempt to shut down illegal immigration…PERIOD!

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