Why Did You Change Your Mind On ...?

Funny thing, that. You see, even Christians can’t agree on what it means to be obedient to scripture. For example, it’s common in Churches of Christ to hold the position that women can’t hold any positions of authority. They can’t teach men, lead communion or even a prayer in front of the congregation. There’s a poster on this very board that vehemently argues this position.

So I love it when non-Muslims try to come in and assert their own biased and bigoted views to paint “real” Muslims as hell-bent on conquering us and forcing us to submit to their will.

There’s no such thing as a Good Christian.

There is such thing as a Good Muslim.

Oh jeez!

You sound like Joe Biden!

’We choose truth over facts’

I don’t recall sniffing your hair.

:rofl:

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Your bias led you to hear things that were not said.

Granted, the OP may have a point. People may point to “moderates” and say, “See, they are peaceful!”

But if they were truly following and being obedient to their scriptures, can you really trust anyone who is commanded to do the following?

If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. Allah is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is Allah you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against Allah. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way Allah commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.

If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from Allah. Then you will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.

If you hear it said about one of the towns Allah is giving you to live in that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock. You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to Allah. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt, and none of the condemned things are to be found in your hands. Then Allah will turn from his fierce anger, will show you mercy, and will have compassion on you. He will increase your numbers, as he promised on oath to your ancestors— because you obey Allah by keeping all his commands that I am giving you today and doing what is right in his eyes.

The Allah?

Redundancy is good. Redundancy is good.

Translations are funny sometimes. Fixed :slight_smile:

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I would’ve left it there. lol

You demonstrate the wisdom of the Crossfield memo.

It says that anyone who posts like an enemy of America may be treated online like an enemy of America.

No matter what they might say as a way of camouflaging or blurring their loyalties, it comes down to how they post with regard to helping or hurting America.

Your posts would enable those wanting to conquer America.

That means we may consider you hostile to America’s interests.

Even Muslims can appreciate the humor in Ron White’s comedy.

You remind me of the scene in Private Ryan (or was it Band of Brothers?), where a German soldier who tries to convince his American captors that he was not so bad by mentioning idiomatic American phrases and commenting on Betty Grable’s “gams.”

How old were you when it popped up in your Google search results?

Was it inspiring to read? Intimidating?

Did it cause you to join the Army and go fight the Scourge? Did you ever do anything about it? :thinking:

You are aware that your post could have a chilling effect on those who might speak against Islamization, yes?

This is how only a few Jihadis can control large numbers of Americans who can plead ignorance and allow the progress of Islamization.

How does any of that affect the problem of Islamization or stopping it?

How can my post have a chilling effect?

What are you scared of exactly?

:thinking:

What is a Good Muslim?

That America will be taken over by stealthy Islamists before we even know they are attacking us.

That we will be forced to adopt Islamic laws and rules and ways of life.

That the inequality cited in the OP will be realized here and that Jews and Gays and Women and those who resist Islamization will be discriminated against, oppressed and persecuted.

Why AREN’T you scared?

Not because you are unaware of the threat, but because…?

By reminding or spelling out the orders to Muslims to kill those who speak out against Islamization.

That is called terrorizing.

US Army Special Forces teams go into a country and identify groups of indigenous peoples who they recruit and train to multiply their own effectiveness in creating an insurgency to oppose the existing government or regime.

Small groups of activists and military forces can and routinely do affect, influence, engage with and against the populace and the government loyalists to defeat the much larger numbers or the government.

Less than 3 million Muslims have invaded America such that it is considered socially taboo to speak critically of Islam.

Who do you think influenced that huge advantage to help Jihadis?

Spent some time in a Muslim majority country & had problems with no one.

I’d rather deal with Muslim immigrants than some of the native borns in my state of residence.

At least they’re not putting down people in the more conservative states while taking advantage of welfare programs and dressing up racist points of view.