Why did Democrats filibuster to protect Putin's pipeline?

[FreeAndClear]

@Smyrna

@FreeAndClear

If you also know where Germany can get natural gas please let them know

…and what “we” didn’t learn from depending on outside sources for computer chips, is this same scenario but on an even more threatening scale.

Sure and until the United States can deliver natural gas to Europe, this is all for naught.

[Smyrna]

@FreeAndClear

Sure and until the United States can deliver natural gas to Europe, this is all for naught.

There’s always a way my friend…

US sees gas exports to Germany by 2022 – DW – 09/17/2018.

[FreeAndClear]

@Smyrna

@FreeAndClear

Sure and until the United States can deliver natural gas to Europe, this is all for naught.

There’s always a way my friend…

US sees gas exports to Germany by 2022 – DW – 09/17/2018.

Yes i know. That’s why i wrote until it happens.

[Smyrna]

@FreeAndClear

Yes i know. That’s why i wrote until it happens.

…but didn’t mention it?

[FreeAndClear]

@Smyrna

@FreeAndClear

Yes i know. That’s why i wrote until it happens.

…but didn’t mention it?

I have in the past on the subject. The tech is years away to deliver meaningful amounts of natural gas to Germany at the same cost as the pipeline

And i did mention it “until it happens” not that it’s impossible.

[Roxiebelle]

@gooddad409

Those socialist/communist friendly dems are something else aren’t they?!

America last!

It’s more like America gone if The Democrats get their dictatorship way!

[gooddad409]

@Roxiebelle

@gooddad409

Those socialist/communist friendly dems are something else aren’t they?!

America last!

It’s more like America gone if The Democrats get their dictatorship way!

Yep. The mid term landslide losses for the dems can’t come quick enough!

[Ben_Natuf]

the senate has prudent rules. the bigger problem is leftist idiots don’t know how to take no for an answer.

[Ben_Natuf]

the simple answer is don’t scrap you’re existing energy infrastructure until you’ve secured reliable replacement

[DougBH]

@GrandWazoo

@Bill.in.PA

Are Biden and the Democrat leadership really in Putin’s pocket?

Good grief, that is ridiculous. That bill would have driven a wedge between us and Germany which would have also effected our relationships with other Europe countries. And right now we need the European countries to be on our side against Putin and his moves against Ukraine.

Ummm. …the existence of,that pipeline gives Russia a tool of extortion over Germany…far from setting them free to support Ukraine.

[DougBH]

Cloture is part of the filibuster play. I mean…really.
What would cloture even mean without the filibuster?

[DougBH]

@Ben_Natuf

the simple answer is don’t scrap you’re existing energy infrastructure until you’ve secured reliable replacement

Remember when energy independence was considered a good thing? Must have been back in the ….oh….2020s.

[ohknow35]

Not sure yet, but it most likely has something to do with hunter biden making millions off it.

[FreeAndClear]

@ohknow35

Not sure yet, but it most likely has something to do with hunter biden making millions off it.

Needs more board.

[Samm]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Ben_Natuf

the question isn’t did they use it, its why did they use it. the why is simple. tribalism.

Categorically civics. The filibuster was not deployed.

You as well could use an education on civucs. Start by reading the other thread

But the point is, like an armed robber doesn’t have to pull the trigger to use his gun to rob you, the minority opinion in the Senate doesn’t have to filibuster to use it to get their way. It’s getting really boring hearing this silly semantic argument that they did not filibuster.

[Samm]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Ben_Natuf

i’ll remain in reality and not resort to silly semantical arguments to deny it. the modern filibuster is a cloture vote and has been for over 50 years. your excuse de jour is nothing but a ■■■■■■■■ denial.

It’s not semantics, it’s the rules of the senate. It’s that simple.

The filibuster was NOT invoked to block Cruz’s bill

Give it up Pig. Without the filibuster tool in place, the Bill would have passed. That is the only fact of pertinence.

[Samm]

@FreeAndClear

@Samm

Maybe, but that was not the gist of the discussion.

Whose discussion? Between me and another poster?

The thread discussion.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Samm

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Ben_Natuf

i’ll remain in reality and not resort to silly semantical arguments to deny it. the modern filibuster is a cloture vote and has been for over 50 years. your excuse de jour is nothing but a ■■■■■■■■ denial.

It’s not semantics, it’s the rules of the senate. It’s that simple.

The filibuster was NOT invoked to block Cruz’s bill

Give it up Pig. Without the filibuster tool in place, the Bill would have passed. That is the only fact of pertinence.

Nope. Couldn’t reach cloture, which flows from filibuster, but is NOT filibuster. Which means that it is incorrect to say Cruz’s Bill was filibustered.

Also, I want to point out again that all Cruz has to do is cross the aisle with a vouple friends to make cloture/filibuster go away

You can’t have it both ways: you can’t complain about cloture/filibuster on one hand, and refuse to do anything about it with the other.

[Ben_Natuf]

you’re confused, he has the support of 6 democrats. not enough,so no, not one or two

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Ben_Natuf

you’re confused, he has the support of 6 democrats. not enough,so no, not one or two

I am talking about the rules change, not the Cruz bill