Who knew that Sweden and Poland would be leading the fight for free speech?

Not twitters.

Finally! You betcha. One of the most anti-liberal concepts ever. It is pure fascism. You bet I am.

Get rid of it. Get government back on it’s side of the line. But the whole line. Not just what you don’t like.

Twitter, Facebook, this forum and all the other privately owned entities absolutely have the right to refuse service to anyone.

So do the bakeries, cupcake shops, motels and lunch counters.

No double standards. No hypocrisy.

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Ah
 so none of this was being argued in good faith.

Cool

Cool.

There’s nothing physical about a discussion forum.

Oh. I thought you were listing types of chemistries.

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Good faith? Every bit of it is. Faith in liberalism. Public accommodation laws currently exist. Every argument I have made in this thread is the same argument made to justify the abusive nature of them.

My personal favorite is the “Their door opens on the public sidewalk Gambit”.

The demands being made now are the logical extension of the concepts from then evolving into today’s environment.

The claim of unpersoning is also an extension of same. Remember the justifications for subsidized smart phone purchases? For the tax-payer provision of broadband service? The Governor of Texas has declared that one an “emergency” for some reason.

Is it not true that if you don’t have an online presence in today’s world, Facebook, Twitter, maybe Instagram, you don’t have a voice in today’s mainstream society?

And when somebody takes away your voice, what do they effectively do? Is that not oppression?

How about a platform provider who refuses service to black people or homosexuals or CRT forbid - black lesbian single mothers?

I absolutely support the right of Twitter and Facebook to refuse service to Trump, Greene or anybody else.

Will you join me in supporting that same right for every other business owner to refuse service to anybody else?

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No you didn’t. You can deny it, but you can’t hide from it.

We weren’t discussing Twitter at the moment, now were we?

Good OP. Good thread.

Neolibs hate free speech
 Tech tyranny and burka faces

Here you go. This is what is happening. In reverse. His movement has become what he fought against.

You were with me

Was that reply to you about you?

I am getting a mixed message here

If public accommodation laws exist (something you oppose) then it is right to advocate for private platforms to host content that it does not want (something you also oppose) because
 well 
 I don’t know why really because it makes no sense.

You have a right to free speech

You do not have a right to someone else’s private platform.

You made a statement to me about Twitter based on feelings
 then told another user that there feelings about hannity moderation is incorrect

You’re right. But your one word, “organic” did leave me in the dark as to your thinking, and I don’t think I am the only one. It might be helpful to be more verbose in the future.

My reply was trying to point that out in the same fashion.

Sneaky, Trump was never denied service for being Trump. He was denied service for breaking their rules. Can businesses not have rules?

You have a right to have a cake
but you don’t have a right to force someone else to bake that cake.

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No you aren’t. You are attempting to set up a Hypocrisy Defense by creating a narrative out of counterfactuals and assumptions you know to be false.

No where have I advocated any such thing or said “it was right”, you assumed it because you needed to. And when you finally asked instead of telling, what answer did you get?

I’m not the one guilty of hypocrisy. Of picking and choosing who rights apply to, what is “worthy” and what is not.

If the law exists, it exists for all. If it is bad law, get rid of it - for all. I can take the bad with the good. I can handle not just my freedom, but yours. Can you?

I am not trying to recreate society in my own image. You can have yours and I’ll have mine; just stay on your side of the fence.

Liberalism.