Who is Eric Ciaramella

So do you think initiating an Impeachment process is something to laugh about?

Perception is real. That’s what this whole topic of discussion is about. Perception.

That is not the point. The anonymity of the whistleblower is not protected by the Whistleblower Act. There was no violation of the law in revealing his name. That is the point.

This reply meshes with my expectations…:wink:

That Biden is a potential political rival is immaterial. The question raised as to whether Hunter Biden got the job for no other apparent reason than to have the potential to use his father for political favors is reason enough to conduct an investigation. Regardless whether that occurred or not is secondary to the overt appearance of conflict of interest of that arrangement. Do you not agree that the arrangement between Hunter Biden and Burisma was highly suspect? And how about the similar arrangement Hunter had in China? It stinks and you know it.

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I customize posts to the expectations of the recipient. Raise your game.

Nepotism, favortism, cronyism… whatever you want to call it, I disagree with it. If you want to discuss the similar experiences of Jared and Ivanka, I would consider that similar.
However, the acts associated with Ukraine and Trump are very different than the nepotism you bring up. Trump had a goal of getting a public statement to benefit his political life. His personal lawyer set out to achieve this goal. The Ambassador to Ukraine was fired to facilitate this goal. This was a concerted effort to attain this goal. It was not just one phone call.

It was not nepotism, it was influence buying. They didn’t hire Hunter as a favor to Joe, they hired him to potentially influence Joe.

Burisma hired him. I’m sure they did so to gain access. You don’t think that happens with Trump? You don’t think Jared and Ivanka benefit from their father’s position?

None of that absolves Trump of what he has done here. He conducted a systematic campaign to get a public statement from Ukraine. Are you claiming this was not something that took place?

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That’s not it.

Exactly.

Perhaps you’d like to give me an example of a US president doing something similar in the last, oh, century.

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Shocker is I run a business so an immediate reply isn’t always in the cards.

As far as what implicates Biden and his son? Well Biden did. If you cannot color between the lines here then IDK what to tell you.

Pull out your crayons and color in the missing parts. Exactly how do the Biden’s benefit from this

Fine, what else do you think you have?

And yet here you are.

Good advise. For you.

No he wasn’t. He could have simply used a pocket veto or outright veto and forced the congress to override.

He wanted to try a softer approach since the prior sanctions hadn’t accomplished anything and that is his right.

A perfectly viable strategy the congress simply disagreed with.

which people admitted that and how do you know?

Hadn’t accomplished anything? Are you sure about that?