Who do you support sanctuary or ICE

This twice deported maniac in N.Y. murdered a woman. So who do you support? ICE who booted him out of the country twice or sanctuary policies that protect him from deportation at all costs? Where do you stand?

The article you included does not say that any agency didn’t honor an ICE detainer at all… in fact, the opposite…

So who do you support? Sanctuary policies or ICE?

I support ICE and I strongly oppose sanctuary cities and believe the policy is traitorous.

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Score one point for the good guys.

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This is the problem with this issue and many others lately… You seem to think this is a game of points, winners and losers instead of a legitimate legal issue. You want to allow persons to be detained without judicial review (detainer) and enable local law enforcement to violate the 4th amendment rights of whoever ICE decides is a bad guy. You started this thread with an article that doesn’t even have anything to do with detainers other than the murder happened in a state where some local agencies refuse to honor detainers.

ICE doesn’t decide who is a bad guy. They are a deportation agency. Their job is to remove people who have come into our country illegally and unscreened. People who disrespected our laws and borders. It’s not up to them to decide who is or who is not a bad person.

So would you shut down ICE? Or do you support ICE? You forgot to reply to that part.

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I disagree with some on the left who want to abolish ICE just like I disagree with Ann Coulter who wants to abolish the FBI. The Democratic lady that I am planning to vote for Senator came out against abolishing ICE.

ICE decides who they issue a detainer on instead of getting a warrant…

Oh, gee… I support ICE with bumper stickers, flags and a patriotic song every morning! What does “support ICE” mean exactly? Do I have to ignore the multiple times the courts have ruled that local governments are free to ignore detainers? Or ICE’s own lawyers admitting in court that they re mere requests and have no real legal basis?

Supporting the mission of ICE does not mean demanding perfection. Expecting no mistakes. They are not perfect, but neither are you. Do you support the mission of ICE to deport foreign nationals who have violated our laws? It’s not really a trick question. Don’t over think it.

Are there any other constitutional rights you feel like federal agencies should be able to ignore?

[quote=“altair1013, post:10, topic:9117”] Do you support the mission of ICE to deport foreign nationals who have violated our laws? It’s not really a trick question. Don’t over think it.
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Of course I support ICE or it’s predecessor, INS and their mission to deport foreign nationals who have violated our laws. I also support requiring them to get warrants from judges before detaining or arresting people in our country. Why are you trying so hard to avoid warrants?

If ICE booted him out then sanctuary polices obviously didn’t protect him.

Warrants are for citizens, not illegal aliens. If they are here illegally, what purpose would the warrant serve? A warrant is for search and seizure of crooks who are citizens of this country.
I am surprised a smart guy like yourself didn’t know this.

Right. They sometimes fail in their efforts to protect and hide violent illegals. Thank God. I wish they would fail every time. How about you?

So you are stating that the constitution does not apply to non-citizens?

I’m smart enough to know you have no idea what you are talking about… ICE issues arrest warrants all the time…

So what are you complaining about then?

i don’t support sanctuary cities.

having said that, if they all just suddenly turned into Texas i think the Trump administration would do even more stupid stuff (who would have guessed that Trump would separate families to the point where the kids will be orphaned long term). they can’t seem to do anything the easy/smart way.

Beat her to death with his hands? That’s a bad dude.

:roll_eyes::roll_eyes: said all that with a straight face :roll_eyes::roll_eyes:

Why not just spit it out that you support illegals and sanctuary for illegals and you do not support ICE!