While our S.C. babbles on and on today, they certainly appear to ignore our Constitution

During today’s S.C. hearing regarding presidential immunity, it was repeatedly admitted by all that bribery is a prosecutable offense by the terms of our Constitution. What was repeatedly ignored with respect to our President is, if there is an accusation of our president engaging in bribery or another criminal offense, our Constitution provides the remedy and venue . . . impeachment first, and then a trial by the Senate.

The bottom line is, our nitwitted S.C. in general, has today babbled on and on over a subject matter constitutionally left in the hands of the House, and then Senate.

JWK

Why have a written constitution, approved by the people, if those who it is meant to control are free to make it mean whatever they wish it to mean?

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It is an absolute abomination that we have a constitutionally ignorant nitwit, such as Michael Dreenben, in our Department of Justice, who does not acknowledge and identify the proper venue, to determine if a criminal act has been committed by a President.

Only in his capacity as president. Not any act.

Babbling

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Any acts during his tenure as president, are within the check and balance of impeachment.

5th ave. defense and syndrome all in one…

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No they are not. Any acts in the capacity as president.

You are making things up … again

You would not in a million years argue this for a dem president by the way

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The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

He is not in office. Removed from office isn’t the same as prosecuted for a crime committed outside the scope of his presidential duties . The question isn’t whether he is removed from office but whether he is convicted of a crime.

You have no basis for arguing that the constitution and you would never give this right to a dem president. Ever

You want a democratic president to have full criminal immunity?

The question is if a president has committed an offense while in office, and that matter has been left in the hands of Congress (the House and Senate)

See:

Hastings had been impeached in May 1787, the same month the U.S. constitutional convention opened. The House of Commons charged Hastings with a mix of criminal offenses and non-criminal offenses, including confiscating land and provoking a revolt in parts of India. Hastings’ trial by the House of Lords was pending while the American delegates were debating in Philadelphia. Mason argued to his fellow delegates that Hastings was accused of abuses of power, not treason, and that the Constitution needed to guard against a president who might commit misdeeds like those alleged against Hastings. (In the end, The House of Lords acquitted Hastings in 1795.)

There is no immunity . . . our Constitution authorizes Congress to deal with misdeeds committed by a president while in office.

Stop making ■■■■ up!

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Which is immunity from criminal prosecution.

Why would you want someone to have that?

You should take heed to your own advice.

That doesn’t change the fact that you are confusing impeachment resulting in removal from office with a criminal conviction.

Wrong. Upon the Senate doing its job, and finding a president is guilty, the stage is then set for his prosecution under statutory law.

Stop making ■■■■ up.

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The Senate’s job is to determine if the president has committed a crime, but does not have authority to prosecute that crime. Once the Senate does its job and finds the president guilty of a crime, that opens the door for the president to be prosecuted under statutory law. Jurisdiction over whether a crime has been committed is left in the hands of the Senate.

That’s the argument the trump team made.

I don’t think it will carry the court.

I don’t think you want presidents to be immune frm prosecution just because they have a friendly house and senate.

Where does it say that in the consitution?

It says how to remove a president from office.

It says nothing about criminally prosecuting them.

Okie please cite to me where does it say that the senate and the courts don’t have concurrent jurisdiction over a president comiting criminal acts that are not in his capacity or in furtherance of his presidency

You keep rolling your eyes they are going to stay that way

Please let me know if this the argument you want to make in prosecuting Obama for killing an American citizen without due process

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Provide a link showing the “Trump team” argued it is the Senate’s job to have a trial to determine if a president has committed a crime. I don’t recall the “Trump team” making that argument, but I could be wrong.