Where did 30m Votes Go?

[Samm]

@biggestal99

@Samm

Like watching the continents drift.

they of course have.

in another 2,000,000,000 years or so. it will be noticeable

Yep … Just like your accumulation of knowledge.

[Samm]

@peek-a-boo

@thinkingman

fraud ballots in lancaster cty PA were 2500 just on the day they were due.

Is this what you are referring to? You do realize this is for the 2024 election and having nothing to do with the 2020 election. You must also realize that there were questions surrounding 2,500 voter registration forms, not ballots. And finally, no fraudulent ballots were cast as a result of the questionable registration forms.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/04/us/trump-ballot-fraud-lancaster-county.html

Fraudulent voter registration leads to fraudulent votes if not detected prior to the election. The problem is, there is no way to determine which ballots were cast by the frauds.

[Samm]

@peek-a-boo

@conan

For those that been paying attention…if normal, and I said normal elections cycle there has been 1.3 percent rejection rate of ballots and then you have unusual election cycle where rejection rate is less then half of that. then 0.2 isn’t far fetch to change election outcome in very narrow race.

End of story…and that’s not debatable.

Actually, I had that very debate with @Samm

I also provided a link to you showing how rejection rates have been improving and will continue to improve. The differences between general election cycles and mid-term election cycles were briefly explored.

You summarily rejected my link and chose not to participate in the discussion. And now you are coming back with exactly the same claim, while expecting a different response.

What can I say except…

WOW!

Yeah … And you didn’t win that debate either.

[Samm]

@peek-a-boo

@conan

More experience voters tend to make less mistakes in their voting habits.

You have no data to back that up, and it doesn’t change the fact that you are attempting to compare two incongruent population samples,

Your own link stated that studies show that to be the case. I quoted it to you when we were having this debate.

[Samm]

@peek-a-boo

@conan

Yes you are…most of forum members see it.

I’m not picking and choosing anything. I’m simply pointing out the flaw in your analysis and resultant conclusion.

Most forum members aren’t even paying attention to this discussion.

Most forum members don’t participate much if at all in the forum. But most forum members who are participating in this thread are paying attention and see the carefully carved out position you’re taking.

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@Samm

Yeah … And you didn’t win that debate either.

Well obviously, we both believe we got the upper hand.

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@Samm

Fraudulent voter registration leads to fraudulent votes if not detected prior to the election. The problem is, there is no way to determine which ballots were cast by the frauds.

Well sure there is. If an invalid voter registration form is thrown out, then no registration takes place. Without a voter registration, no ballot will be mailed to that individual.

[peek-a-boo]

@Samm

Your own link stated that studies show that to be the case. I quoted it to you when we were having this debate.

Are you referring to this quote from post #429?

One study, for instance, showed that first-time mail voters, who are less familiar with the rules of absentee voting, were up to three times more likely to have their votes rejected …”

The implication was that mid-term voters were more experienced. That’s what I asked to be proven. Obviously as one gains experience with anything they will make less mistakes.

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@Samm

Most forum members don’t participate much if at all in the forum. But most forum members who are participating in this thread are paying attention and see the carefully carved out position you’re taking.

I’m betting there are all of 3 of us still engaged. The thread has long since run its course.

[RTchoke]

@Samm

@peek-a-boo

@thinkingman

fraud ballots in lancaster cty PA were 2500 just on the day they were due.

Is this what you are referring to? You do realize this is for the 2024 election and having nothing to do with the 2020 election. You must also realize that there were questions surrounding 2,500 voter registration forms, not ballots. And finally, no fraudulent ballots were cast as a result of the questionable registration forms.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/04/us/trump-ballot-fraud-lancaster-county.html

Fraudulent voter registration leads to fraudulent votes if not detected prior to the election. The problem is, there is no way to determine which ballots were cast by the frauds.

Even if they determine it’s fraudulent and the vote gets cast, it will count. Remember the Chinese student. His vote counted.

[Samm]

@peek-a-boo

@Samm

Yeah … And you didn’t win that debate either.

Well obviously, we both believe we got the upper hand.

Now it’s two against one. You lost again.

[Samm]

@peek-a-boo

@Samm

Fraudulent voter registration leads to fraudulent votes if not detected prior to the election. The problem is, there is no way to determine which ballots were cast by the frauds.

Well sure there is. If an invalid voter registration form is thrown out, then no registration takes place. Without a voter registration, no ballot will be mailed to that individual.

It depends on when it is thrown out. Why are they talking about having discovered fraudulent registrations several days after the election? If they had been ferreted out prior to any votes being cast, they would have talked about it then so as to discourage others from doing likewise.

[Samm]

@peek-a-boo

@Samm

Your own link stated that studies show that to be the case. I quoted it to you when we were having this debate.

Are you referring to this quote from post #429?

One study, for instance, showed that first-time mail voters, who are less familiar with the rules of absentee voting, were up to three times more likely to have their votes rejected …”

The implication was that mid-term voters were more experienced. That’s what I asked to be proven. Obviously as one gains experience with anything they will make less mistakes.

Exactly what we said.

[Samm]

@peek-a-boo

@Samm

Most forum members don’t participate much if at all in the forum. But most forum members who are participating in this thread are paying attention and see the carefully carved out position you’re taking.

I’m betting there are all of 3 of us still engaged. The thread has long since run its course.

Yet here you are, still beating the dead horse.

[Samm]

@RTchoke

@Samm

@peek-a-boo

@thinkingman

fraud ballots in lancaster cty PA were 2500 just on the day they were due.

Is this what you are referring to? You do realize this is for the 2024 election and having nothing to do with the 2020 election. You must also realize that there were questions surrounding 2,500 voter registration forms, not ballots. And finally, no fraudulent ballots were cast as a result of the questionable registration forms.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/04/us/trump-ballot-fraud-lancaster-county.html

Fraudulent voter registration leads to fraudulent votes if not detected prior to the election. The problem is, there is no way to determine which ballots were cast by the frauds.

Even if they determine it’s fraudulent and the vote gets cast, it will count. Remember the Chinese student. His vote counted.

That’s correct, once the ballot is counted (i.e. fed into the ballot scanner) it cannot be determined who cast it, and therefore, cannot be removed from the count.

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@Samm

It depends on when it is thrown out. Why are they talking about having discovered fraudulent registrations several days after the election? If they had been ferreted out prior to any votes being cast, they would have talked about it then so as to discourage others from doing likewise.

We are discussing it after the election, but the story broke on October 27th, well before the election.

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@RTchoke

Even if they determine it’s fraudulent and the vote gets cast, it will count. Remember the Chinese student. His vote counted.

The problem was with suspicious voter registration forms. Those found to be invalid were thrown out and no voter registration took place. Only registered voters receive mail-in ballots.

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@Samm

Yet here you are, still beating the dead horse.

I continue to respond.

[peek-a-boo]

@Samm

Exactly what we said.

Go back and read the exchange in context.

[Smyrna]

@Toll_Collector

This does appear to be the case. I doubt they get to 158M with California at 92% in. But I can see around 152M. Either way, it’s roughly the same number of votes.

Now I’d like those votes that take so stupid long to count, examined. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit that now the left is just tallying votes from invisible people, knowing that it won’t change the election but their attempt to hide the fraud of 2020?